Paypal - 180 day Disputes Now ??

[daveleo]

The email I got (that started this thread) was from Paypal, and clearly stated it is a change in Paypal policy, effective Nov.18.
It did not specify or limit its comentary to Ebay transactions, but it did note that Ebay is Paypal's parent company.

I am kind of surprised that no one else here said they got this Paypal email.

 

[Corran]

You're right.

I just checked, and I have not gotten any such email in either my Paypal or eBay email accounts.

Found this via Google:
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/upcoming-policies-full

 

[Rick Waldroup]

I have not received any such email either, and I have two accounts with PayPal- a personal one and a business one.

 

[kxl]

How do you sell classic cameras and supplies on Amazon?😕

http://www.amazon.com/gp/seller-acc...ef=mm_sys_soa_pro_surl?AZSHORTURLSELLONAMAZON

I am abandoning ebay as a seller and from now on, will only sell through online forums (e.g., RFF) and Amazon.

 

[burancap]

I am kind of surprised that no one else here said they got this Paypal email.

I am in receipt from at least one account.

 

[burancap]

I am abandoning ebay as a seller and from now on, will only sell through online forums (e.g., RFF) and Amazon.

I have basically already done that, but there is still the issue of funds transfer.

So, anybody ... any experiences, suggestions, etc?

 

[mbisc]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/seller-acc...ef=mm_sys_soa_pro_surl?AZSHORTURLSELLONAMAZON

I am abandoning ebay as a seller and from now on, will only sell through online forums (e.g., RFF) and Amazon.

I'm familiar with the AMAZON Seller account (and occasionally sell books there), but I don't think classic camera stuff is sold there. Occasionally used but recent electronics, but, say, a 1970s Leica???

 

[daveleo]

Okay, here is a link to the (what looks like) real Paypal web page regarding this change:

https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/ua/upcoming-policies-full?country.x=US&locale.x=en_US

It looks real (I had my doubts there).

 

[kxl]

I'm familiar with the AMAZON Seller account (and occasionally sell books there), but I don't think classic camera stuff is sold there. Occasionally used but recent electronics, but, say, a 1970s Leica???

Nowhere near as extensive as ebay but there are classic cameras for sale on Amazon.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...0?ie=UTF8&condition=all&sr=8-1&qid=1411590826

 

[dugwerks]

paypal 180 day "new policy" brings it more inline with standard credit card policies. I can dispute a credit card charge (Visa Canada) for up to 180 days , I think this is a push by paypal to be a "bigger player in the CC industry.

 

[Ranchu]

About half the cameras I win on ebay are not as described (I mean quite ****ed). 180 days seems excessive, but if it drives away those sellers it's fine with me.

 

[colyn]

Not saying it could not happen, but that is not what it says.

I sold a camera a couple of months ago that did not have a single dent on it.. The buyer admitted to dropping the camera which caused the huge dent in the top plate as well as knocking the lens to film plane out of alignment which is why he wanted his money back but eBay made me refund him anyway.

I no longer sell high dollar items on eBay. Instead I sell just low dollar item so when I get screwed I won't lose much money..

I have finally come to the realization that eBay is a huge joke. Hopefully when their unjust rules cost them large amounts of money they will turn around..

 

[Darshan]

Do you think so?
I would think to the contrary. Sellers will try and move money out of their Paypal acct and take preemptive moves in order to keep themselves safe from Paypal.
It may be futile but they will try. Especially the crooked sellers!

Paypal will just draw the money straight out of your bank account/credit card.

^^agree with this, they have the power to withdraw money from your bank/cc. Now sellers who are able to refill their Paypal if a dispute opens up may withdraw their money and use it, but who will want to withdraw large sums after selling a big ticket item if it can be taken away?

 

[colyn]

Actually I do not think it is eBay's fault. EBay has simply attracted every kind of online criminal behavior possible, and there is really just nothing to do which will please everyone.

So am I a criminal since I listed a camera and the buyer admitted to causing the damage?

I'm just pointing out how unfair their rules have become.. He admitted to destroying the camera and eBay made me refund him for the damage HE caused...

 

[ColSebastianMoran]

The email I got (that started this thread) was from Paypal, and clearly stated it is a change in Paypal policy, effective Nov.18.
It did not specify or limit its comentary to Ebay transactions, but it did note that Ebay is Paypal's parent company.

Hmm… The the email have a link to click on for "more information" ??

Attention getting email. With a link. Others didn't get it. Doesn't smell right. It's a rough world out there.

 

[ColSebastianMoran]

These eBay and PayPal policies are to guarantee results to the buyers.

As a buyer, the policies are protective. As a seller, you take your statistical chances. OK for a regular seller, but tough for a one-time seller or seller with an expensive item.

So far, I like dealing right here on RFF.

 

[NY_Dan]

Ebay seems to be going out of their way to give buyers powers they never would've thought to ask for. Selling used gear, especially when the items cost more than several hundred dollars, is too much of a hassle -- because some buyers will expect a 50-year old item to be like new. Oh well.

 

[Dante_Stella]

Are you confusing PayPal with Ebay? It looks to me like they are trying to stamp out direct PayPal transactions that don't create Ebay commissions. Isn't the Ebay dispute period still 45 days?

Dante

 

[colyn]

Are you confusing PayPal with Ebay? It looks to me like they are trying to stamp out direct PayPal transactions that don't create Ebay commissions. Isn't the Ebay dispute period still 45 days?

Dante

I suspect the new rules apply to off-eBay sales since eBay stilll has the 45 day timeline.

 

[Bill58]

PayPal really suks pond water for sellers. I won't use it anymore.