Photojournalism's Death: You Say Luceo, and I say...
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Darshan
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I didn't read the whole blog, but the photos are excellent. Thx for the link.
Dan.
Dan.
emraphoto
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it's what is going on. working photojournalists are looking towards multi faceted funding sources. a well developed, diversified in skill and geographical location, cooperative/collective has a better chance at surviving than the individual.
it isn't new. it's been in the works extensively over the past year or two and is quickly becoming the norm for freelancers.
it isn't new. it's been in the works extensively over the past year or two and is quickly becoming the norm for freelancers.
codester80
A Touch of Light
Give these guys a few years and we'll see how eager they are to sleep on the floor and scratch away for a few bucks here and there. I've been there as have thousands of other young and eager photographers but when you get a little longer in the tooth (and I'm not that long in the tooth!) there comes a decision to either get a life or continue crashing on sofas and eating mac and cheese.
Photojournalism is dead as far as being a profession. I don't think anyone of us who say photojournalism is dead is referring to the actual work of photojournalism being dead. It's true that there is some great work being done by photographers all over the world. Problem is most of them are funding those projects themselves and will never see a dime come back to them.
Luceo isn't new or innovative. Look, see how they separate the work amongst the members and pool their revenue together. It's amazing and is sure to be a sound economic model going forward into the future writes Mr. Estrin. Sounds like Magnum or VII or any of the other photographer-initiated agencies.
Portrait painters must have gone through the same denial when cameras first appeared on the scene. I've replaced photographer with painter in an excerpt from the article.
“It is absolutely ridiculous to say that portrait painting is dead,” Mr. Banks said. “It’s definitely changing, but i think that’s exciting. The modes of delivery and consumption are changing, but there’s a lot of great work being done. ”
Luceo was formed in 1887 in response to those changing conditions. Mr. Banks, then 25, sought out other young painters whom he knew or whose work he respected. Several had royal court experiences that were less than fulfilling or had worked with agencies that hadn’t suited their needs.
After a week of round-the-clock conversations and sleeping on the floor of Mr. Banks’s house in Atlanta, they formed a cooperative whose name signifies shining, showing through or becoming visible.
Unlike traditional agencies, they didn’t need a studio or someone to sponsor them. They could market themselves. They could be agile in response to rapid evolution in the industry. They could — they hoped — control their own destinies.
What they needed was a community of like-minded people.
“As a freelancer, it’s important to have a network of people who have my back,” said Ms. Brinson, 27. “It’s financially more feasible to share the cost of marketing and distribution. But it’s the emotional support that’s most important.”
And I'm sure a few years later Ms. Brinson chopped off her ear in a fit of depression as she got tired of counting every penny and eating moldy bread.
Thank you Neil Burgess for calling it.
Photojournalism is dead as far as being a profession. I don't think anyone of us who say photojournalism is dead is referring to the actual work of photojournalism being dead. It's true that there is some great work being done by photographers all over the world. Problem is most of them are funding those projects themselves and will never see a dime come back to them.
Luceo isn't new or innovative. Look, see how they separate the work amongst the members and pool their revenue together. It's amazing and is sure to be a sound economic model going forward into the future writes Mr. Estrin. Sounds like Magnum or VII or any of the other photographer-initiated agencies.
Portrait painters must have gone through the same denial when cameras first appeared on the scene. I've replaced photographer with painter in an excerpt from the article.
“It is absolutely ridiculous to say that portrait painting is dead,” Mr. Banks said. “It’s definitely changing, but i think that’s exciting. The modes of delivery and consumption are changing, but there’s a lot of great work being done. ”
Luceo was formed in 1887 in response to those changing conditions. Mr. Banks, then 25, sought out other young painters whom he knew or whose work he respected. Several had royal court experiences that were less than fulfilling or had worked with agencies that hadn’t suited their needs.
After a week of round-the-clock conversations and sleeping on the floor of Mr. Banks’s house in Atlanta, they formed a cooperative whose name signifies shining, showing through or becoming visible.
Unlike traditional agencies, they didn’t need a studio or someone to sponsor them. They could market themselves. They could be agile in response to rapid evolution in the industry. They could — they hoped — control their own destinies.
What they needed was a community of like-minded people.
“As a freelancer, it’s important to have a network of people who have my back,” said Ms. Brinson, 27. “It’s financially more feasible to share the cost of marketing and distribution. But it’s the emotional support that’s most important.”
And I'm sure a few years later Ms. Brinson chopped off her ear in a fit of depression as she got tired of counting every penny and eating moldy bread.
Thank you Neil Burgess for calling it.
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PKR
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The question has to be asked, What did the New York Times pay Luceo for the publication of their images on this website... Maybe from that answer you can get a better understanding of Luceo's fortune.
Might as well include Fraction magazine in the discussion, and burn.
This was posted by Jonathan at the end of the article, and it's a good question.
p.
Might as well include Fraction magazine in the discussion, and burn.
This was posted by Jonathan at the end of the article, and it's a good question.
p.
jan normandale
Film is the other way
I'm in Burgess camp. This group may succeed they may even avoid internal conflict and avoid implosion but the rest of the world with cameras won't fare equally well.
It's always been a "who you know more than what you know" situation for photographers. I'd be interested to know if this 'start up group' has some. I'm betting they do. Lots of people with cameras and qualifications can't even get that far.
Then there's Getty Images siphoning off 'product' from flickr where the daily image uploads are in the thousands... I'm not enthusiastic for either photojournalists, photographers or writers who want to work the world of journals, tabloids, and newspapers.
Regarding the article, I guess they needed to write something. I'm wondering what the author was paid and if he had to pay for the Luceo Images he used.... ??
To mis quote the Buggles "internet killed the media star"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwuy4hHO3YQ&feature=related
It's always been a "who you know more than what you know" situation for photographers. I'd be interested to know if this 'start up group' has some. I'm betting they do. Lots of people with cameras and qualifications can't even get that far.
Then there's Getty Images siphoning off 'product' from flickr where the daily image uploads are in the thousands... I'm not enthusiastic for either photojournalists, photographers or writers who want to work the world of journals, tabloids, and newspapers.
Regarding the article, I guess they needed to write something. I'm wondering what the author was paid and if he had to pay for the Luceo Images he used.... ??
To mis quote the Buggles "internet killed the media star"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwuy4hHO3YQ&feature=related
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