Godfrey
somewhat colored
... Your 350 is the same as the 250 with the addition of an electronic timer. You may need to take the timer out to keep from fouling the Fuji film packs. ...
I had to remove the film pack spring and gut the electronic timer for my LC350 to work without jamming the Fuji film packs. Now it works well.
For selfies, Polaroid made a self-timer that clips on the shutter release button. It was in the case with mine. Here's one on Ebay for $20, BIN:
www.ebay.com/...POLAROID-SELF-TIMER-192-FOR-USE-W-COLOR-PACK-LAND-CAMERAS-PHOTOGRAPHY
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alienmeatsack
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The Land Camera 320 arrived on Saturday. It came in a beat up KMart case along with the flash unit and a few unused bulbs.
I haven't cleaned it up yet but it appears to be working. It had an old Polaroid pack still in it that was no good sadly. The chemicals were dried up and the neg/print just split apart when you pilled out the sheet.
But, the camera appears to work perfectly. I did some test shots in an empty camera on both ISOs under different lighting conditions and I hear the shutter clicking in appropriate times based on using one of my other ones to test the delay between pressing the button and the second click. It even still has an original battery in it. I have no idea how long that will last but I will convert it to 3 AAAs or a 9V throttled with a voltage divider most likely. It depends on what the batteries cost as the last time I got the 3 AAA holder and batteries if cost me $10 for that. So if the battery itself still is out there somewhere and is $10 or less it's worth it not to fuss with cramming that 3 AAA holder into the battery compartment.
The only big difference I can see between the 320 and the 101 is that the 320's view/range finder does not folder under the case. Beyond that it appears to be identical in form and function.
This makes my fourth Land Camera for my collection. I guess I need to figure out what the pinnacle of the LC series was and get one and then be done and just shoot them for the fun.
I haven't cleaned it up yet but it appears to be working. It had an old Polaroid pack still in it that was no good sadly. The chemicals were dried up and the neg/print just split apart when you pilled out the sheet.
But, the camera appears to work perfectly. I did some test shots in an empty camera on both ISOs under different lighting conditions and I hear the shutter clicking in appropriate times based on using one of my other ones to test the delay between pressing the button and the second click. It even still has an original battery in it. I have no idea how long that will last but I will convert it to 3 AAAs or a 9V throttled with a voltage divider most likely. It depends on what the batteries cost as the last time I got the 3 AAA holder and batteries if cost me $10 for that. So if the battery itself still is out there somewhere and is $10 or less it's worth it not to fuss with cramming that 3 AAA holder into the battery compartment.
The only big difference I can see between the 320 and the 101 is that the 320's view/range finder does not folder under the case. Beyond that it appears to be identical in form and function.
This makes my fourth Land Camera for my collection. I guess I need to figure out what the pinnacle of the LC series was and get one and then be done and just shoot them for the fun.
3rdtrick
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The 250 is actually the pinnacle. The newer metal body cameras are no better and have an electronic timer that may need to be removed for the Fuji films. The 360 has a cool electronic flash units but they are not usually working. Once you get settled with the pack film cameras, we can get you started on converted roll film cameras...
Pete
Pete
alienmeatsack
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I looked at the 100 I think, that big tank of a roll film camera. Do they make the film for that?
That's my problem. I struggle with the fact that I have to pay $30 for a new 8 pack of 600 film from Impossible, and $15-20 for a expired and mostly useless pack of original possibly not working 600 film, and that my beloved BW packfilm is no longer available.
I don't really need a camera with film that is impossible to find or extremely expensive.
The OCD person that I am would not tolerate that well.
it's why the Land Cameras until recently worked so nicely in my OCD world, I could buy the film cheaply and plentifully.
That's my problem. I struggle with the fact that I have to pay $30 for a new 8 pack of 600 film from Impossible, and $15-20 for a expired and mostly useless pack of original possibly not working 600 film, and that my beloved BW packfilm is no longer available.
I don't really need a camera with film that is impossible to find or extremely expensive.
The OCD person that I am would not tolerate that well.
it's why the Land Cameras until recently worked so nicely in my OCD world, I could buy the film cheaply and plentifully.
3rdtrick
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The old roll film cameras can be converted to use the Fuji pack film. It is quite a job but I have done a few myself. The favorites are the 110a and 110b because they have a nice Rodenstock lens. I will put some pics up of the cameras when I get new ones. Meanwhile here a few Polaroid shots.
It is hard to remember what I already posted in this thread but I think these are new.
Pete



It is hard to remember what I already posted in this thread but I think these are new.
Pete
alienmeatsack
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Is there a good place online to see what is involved in the conversion? I am curious.
3rdtrick
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This guy does conversions and also has good info for DIY.
http://www.polaroidconversions.com/
http://www.polaroidconversions.com/
alienmeatsack
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I'll have a look. I don't know if I'm ready to commit that kind of money to something that may be impossible to get film for soon, but I am curious at the very least. 
Ezzie
E. D. Russell Roberts
I converted my 110A to take interchangeable backs. http://on-your-kitchen-worktop.blogspot.no/2012/06/polaroid-pathfinder-110a-brought-back.html?m=1
Godfrey
somewhat colored
In my recent Impossible order, I included three packs of 600 film to test the One600 that one friend gave me and the OneStep Close-Up that another friend gave me. Had the One600 at a party yesterday and blew through two of the packs ... Happy to say it produces very nice results. Last two exposures still in the camera.
I stocked up on SilverShade Cool for the Spectras ... 10 packs. Still have a few packs for the SX70 but I'm not ordering until the new B&W film is available.
I'll need more 600 and SX70 film soon.
Photos after I get to scanning. ;-)
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I stocked up on SilverShade Cool for the Spectras ... 10 packs. Still have a few packs for the SX70 but I'm not ordering until the new B&W film is available.
I'll need more 600 and SX70 film soon.
Photos after I get to scanning. ;-)
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alienmeatsack
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I've considered the idea of taking one of the broken LC's I've run across for super cheap and chopping it's back off to use as a mount and developer delivery system for one of my many medium format cameras. I did the calculations and measurements and was going to essentially hack and glue a Diana lens/shutter into one.
But I like the idea of converting an old Polaroid that uses a different film. Keeping the gear all in the Polaroid family while making two things into a monster of a camera.
I know I've seen some folks who've done 4x5 trimmed paper and film in their packcameras. Maybe I need to try hacking one, I do have the ugly but working land camera that has the digital timer I could hack and not feel bad about.
I think the simplest would be one of the all in one bodys where you just simply cut the back off as close to the film plane as possible with the least amount of exposed area minus the actual shooting area. Then fashion a mount to that and affix your lens or body from another camera at the correct focal distance.
Seems easy... a little Dremeling, some epoxy and wood perhaps and 2 cameras to become one.
I do have a Foldex 20 that scratches the film badly I have wanted to convert. It would be a lovely instant with one of the Land Cameras backs on it.
Maybe it's a to-do for this winter. Depends on how cold my garage gets and how desperate I get to play in the land of frankenstein's monster and Polaroids.
But I like the idea of converting an old Polaroid that uses a different film. Keeping the gear all in the Polaroid family while making two things into a monster of a camera.
I know I've seen some folks who've done 4x5 trimmed paper and film in their packcameras. Maybe I need to try hacking one, I do have the ugly but working land camera that has the digital timer I could hack and not feel bad about.
I think the simplest would be one of the all in one bodys where you just simply cut the back off as close to the film plane as possible with the least amount of exposed area minus the actual shooting area. Then fashion a mount to that and affix your lens or body from another camera at the correct focal distance.
Seems easy... a little Dremeling, some epoxy and wood perhaps and 2 cameras to become one.
I do have a Foldex 20 that scratches the film badly I have wanted to convert. It would be a lovely instant with one of the Land Cameras backs on it.
Maybe it's a to-do for this winter. Depends on how cold my garage gets and how desperate I get to play in the land of frankenstein's monster and Polaroids.
alienmeatsack
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In my recent Impossible order, I included three packs of 600 film to test the One600 that one friend gave me and the OneStep Close-Up that another friend gave me. Had the One600 at a party yesterday and blew through two of the packs ... Happy to say it produces very nice results. Last two exposures still in the camera.
Ive got 2 packs of original 667 or 669?? (the numbers confuse me) that are both quite expired and don't really result in much of a useful image. But they work very well for testing cameras. So I've used them to test the 2 One Steps I've come across. One of the One Steps worked perfectly. The other was dead. I gave it away to someone who wanted to hack it for another camera purpose.
Sadly, I think I almost paid for those what a single pack of working Impossible costs. I do want to get a few more of their films to try, I've not tried the silver one yet.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
Ive got 2 packs of original 667 or 669?? (the numbers confuse me) that are both quite expired and don't really result in much of a useful image. But they work very well for testing cameras. So I've used them to test the 2 One Steps I've come across. One of the One Steps worked perfectly. The other was dead. I gave it away to someone who wanted to hack it for another camera purpose.
Sadly, I think I almost paid for those what a single pack of working Impossible costs. I do want to get a few more of their films to try, I've not tried the silver one yet.
Oh, I'd already tested that the mechanisms worked by using an empty pack and a set of messed up prints. I test every integral film camera that lands here that way, i keep recent film packs and junk prints around for that purpose.
What I didn't know was how good a picture the cameras would make. The One600 is good. I've still got to try the OneStep Close-Up ...
alienmeatsack
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Do you think it's the film or the camera that is the primary reason for the quality of the photo that results?
Or a little of both?
I can't see that much of a difference between photos taken on the same film between my Land Cameras. And I only have the one One Step 600 to really compare and I've only had expired mutant film through it so far. I've been kind of afraid to shoot my Impossible film in it as it's pricy and I don't want to waste it.
Or a little of both?
I can't see that much of a difference between photos taken on the same film between my Land Cameras. And I only have the one One Step 600 to really compare and I've only had expired mutant film through it so far. I've been kind of afraid to shoot my Impossible film in it as it's pricy and I don't want to waste it.
3rdtrick
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Ok, you opened up a can of worms...
Here are a few of my conversions:
Anniversary Speed Graphic 3x4
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134646
A 9x12 Glunz Folding Camera
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135135&highlight=glunz
The Brownieroid
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136568
I have thought about the Foldex 20 but the film format is a bit small. The Polaroid film has to be on the exact same film plane as the original film. Some cameras have adjustable infinity stops so you have a bit of adjustment but you still need to be close.
Pete
Here are a few of my conversions:
Anniversary Speed Graphic 3x4
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134646
A 9x12 Glunz Folding Camera
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135135&highlight=glunz
The Brownieroid
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136568
I have thought about the Foldex 20 but the film format is a bit small. The Polaroid film has to be on the exact same film plane as the original film. Some cameras have adjustable infinity stops so you have a bit of adjustment but you still need to be close.
Pete
alienmeatsack
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The Foldex 20 has no focus, and a pretty decent range of DOF for the lack of focus and the f/8 aperture. I don't know how close to the film plane you could get the pack film or back, but I'd bet you could get close enough.
I think if you could get the pack film back against the back of the Foldex and glue a new aperture disc over the hole that is say around f/16-f/22, for more depth of field, you might be able to do it.
I'll have to look at my Foldex and see how much the focus changes between the film plane and the back of the camera itself. Since it's a 6x9, you'd have to aim the image area of the pack film in the middle, I think you'd probably have a little to the short sides that was not exposed and some on the ends but it could be interesting to try. At this point I wouldn't even have a problem cutting the Foldex to make a Polaroid LC body fit it.
I think if you could get the pack film back against the back of the Foldex and glue a new aperture disc over the hole that is say around f/16-f/22, for more depth of field, you might be able to do it.
I'll have to look at my Foldex and see how much the focus changes between the film plane and the back of the camera itself. Since it's a 6x9, you'd have to aim the image area of the pack film in the middle, I think you'd probably have a little to the short sides that was not exposed and some on the ends but it could be interesting to try. At this point I wouldn't even have a problem cutting the Foldex to make a Polaroid LC body fit it.
3rdtrick
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I know you have a Dremel... Go for it and let us know how it turns out.
Even if it does not work you will still learn from it.
Even if it does not work you will still learn from it.
alienmeatsack
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I'll have to wait until I get back in town to decide what to do. That collapsible LC I got would be perfect as the back for this. What I may do is measure and then decide which needs to be chopped so they fit together nicely.
I also like the idea of your Brownie Polaroid. I was thinking that the One Step sized cameras could make an interesting monster with a Brownie... perhaps using the lens portion and letting the OS do most the work. I don't know how much hacking you can do to those.
All this talk of Polaroids has me wishing I had brought the 320 with me to play with while I watch backups burn to DVD at my desk.
I also like the idea of your Brownie Polaroid. I was thinking that the One Step sized cameras could make an interesting monster with a Brownie... perhaps using the lens portion and letting the OS do most the work. I don't know how much hacking you can do to those.
All this talk of Polaroids has me wishing I had brought the 320 with me to play with while I watch backups burn to DVD at my desk.
3rdtrick
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A few samples from the conversions:
The Speed Graphic
The Glunz
The Brownieroid
The Speed Graphic

The Glunz

The Brownieroid

Godfrey
somewhat colored
Do you think it's the film or the camera that is the primary reason for the quality of the photo that results?
Or a little of both?
I can't see that much of a difference between photos taken on the same film between my Land Cameras. And I only have the one One Step 600 to really compare and I've only had expired mutant film through it so far. I've been kind of afraid to shoot my Impossible film in it as it's pricy and I don't want to waste it.
For the Impossible film, I think it's a little of both. My three SX70s and my three Spectras all do slightly different things.
Can't judge a camera with expired, mutant film. I've gotten to know the Impossible stuff well enough that I can tell if the camera's misbehaving now.
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