Poll: What power should a poster have over their posts

Poll: What power should a poster have over their posts

  • Unlimited power to delete. Unlimited power to edit.

    Votes: 66 49.6%

  • No power to delete. Unlimited power to edit.

    Votes: 23 17.3%

  • No power to delete. Restricted power to edit.

    Votes: 37 27.8%

  • No power to delete. No power to edit.

    Votes: 7 5.3%
  • Total voters
    133
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Tangentially related to other recent posts (http://rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135474, http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135469) around the issues involved when users opt to have their posts deleted, I thought it might be of interest to see what are users feelings on the control a user should have over their posts.

As per recent posts and clarifications, it appears that the forum software does not allow the option of allowing posters to delete their posts without also deleting the threads that poster has created, thus I have not included the option 'Yes, should be able to delete posts, but threads started remain intact'.

In case its unclear from the above, or anyone has not been following the aforementioned threads, presently when a users posts are deleted, any threads they started effectively disappear into thin air.
 
The RFf TOS are quite clear. We all read and agreed to them before signing on.
 
GeorgeD said:
The RFf TOS are quite clear. We all read and agreed to them before signing on.
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"By posting your comments or images on RFF, you are giving permanent irrevocable permission for those posts and images to be used at RFF on the RFF site, even if and when you are no longer a RFF member."

The TOS isn't actually being followed (it is only if all user deleted posts/threads are resurrected)
 
digitalintrigue said:
"By posting your comments or images on RFF, you are giving permanent irrevocable permission for those posts and images to be used at RFF on the RFF site, even if and when you are no longer a RFF member."

The TOS isn't actually being followed (it is only if all user deleted posts/threads are resurrected)
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I would argue that the clause concerns the users giving permission for their posts to persist, but does not place an obligation on the forum staff to ensure that they persist. However, it does release the forum staff from any obligation to delete an outgoing user's posts.

In the particular case of a user being banned, it is often not necessary to delete all of their posts - only those that are particularly contentious or that clearly contravene the TOS. Any such posts that are thread starters can either be deleted by a mod (if the thread itself is contentious and of no particular value to the forum), or the post content can be replaced with "content deleted" or the like.
 
For those who voted in favour of allowing users to delete their posts, I am curious as to your thoughts, if you care to share them. My own personal thoughts would be that through unlimited power to edit your posts and content, that users have everything they need to control/ self-prune any content they feel the need to. I'm genuinely curious, no attempt to antagonise/ force people to justify their opinions 🙂
 
Murchu said:
For those who voted in favour of allowing users to delete their posts, I am curious as to your thoughts, if you care to share them. My own personal thoughts would be that through unlimited power to edit your posts and content, that users have everything they need to control/ self-prune any content they feel the need to. I'm genuinely curious, no attempt to antagonise/ force people to justify their opinions 🙂
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I won't win a popularity contest with this, but here it goes anyways:

Dave's case is only one side of the medal, Murchu, and I'm glad the portrait thread got re-surrected.

However: sometimes (actually quite often recently) threads go astray, and then the only thing the OP can do is delete it (only moderators can close it). For example, yesterday, I started a thread with examples of lens distortion in the Optics forum. Got a couple of good replies, but even more questioning the subject, sarcastically (why they visit the optics forum is beyond me). So I deleted it, and am happy that I could. Another example is a couple of months back when I asked if an F3 could be modified to allow meter and recompose. Next to a couple of good posts, I got a bunch of b*tchy remarks about how perfect the F3 is just as is, that I didn't know how to use it, etc. And so the thread went in the trash; good riddance.

I've started many threads that have had a "good life". For example, my Bokeh thread, or some of the Gallery picks of the week threads - I would never delete them, and do feel they don't belong to me any more. But for the examples above, deletion is fine, IMO. I feel we should keep the status quo, as long as moderators are helping (as they did with Dave's thread).

Roland.
 
Ehm, the answer I want to give isn't there: unlimited power to edit, unlimited power to delete single posts, no power to delete threads.

The problem in the other thread isn't that posts were deleted, but that threads were deleted........ So, this poll is completely besides the point for me.
 
digitalintrigue said:
"By posting your comments or images on RFF, you are giving permanent irrevocable permission for those posts and images to be used at RFF on the RFF site, even if and when you are no longer a RFF member."

The TOS isn't actually being followed (it is only if all user deleted posts/threads are resurrected)
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If you are no longer a member of the forum, effectively you no longer have to agree with the TOS. Many websites would prefer to have no trace of you if you decided to decline the TOS.

I would think that people here would be sensitive to the issue of having control over one's content, preventing one from deleting their own posts is in my view worse than the unusual chance that somebody will delete the OP and erase an entire thread.
 
ferider said:
However: sometimes (actually quite often recently) threads go astray, and then the only thing the OP can do is delete it (only moderators can close it). For example, I just started a thread with examples of lens distortion in the Optics forum. Got a couple of good replies, but even more questioning the subject, sarcastically (why they visit the optics forum is beyond me). So I deleted it, and am happy that I could. Another example is a couple of months back when I asked if an F3 could be modified to allow meter and recompose. Next to a couple of good posts, I got a bunch of b*tchy remarks about how perfect the F3 is just as is, that I didn't know how to use it, etc. And so the thread went it the trash; good riddance.

Then again, I would never, say, delete my Bokeh thread, or the Gallery picks of the week threads that I started. I feel we should keep the status quo, as long as moderators are helping (as they did with Dave's thread).

Roland.
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No, I can actually see where you're coming from mostly, Roland. Trolling is to be despised in my opinion, its just my own thoughts would be that it is an issue for moderators to deal with, not users, by warning or banning users, or even closing the thread.
 
brbo said:
What do you gain by deleting a thread? What do others gain?
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World peace. In some cases. 🙂

Murchu said:
No, I can actually see where you're coming from mostly, Roland. Trolling is to be despised in my opinion, its just my own thoughts would be that it is an issue for moderators to deal with, not users, by warning or banning users, or even closing the thread.
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Moderators will only close threads if they really get offensive. They wouldn't touch my two examples, in the OPs own interest.
 
brbo said:
I thought that wish was reserved for Miss World only.

But, I understand, why wouldn't RFF enable some other people feel like that for a moment, right? 🙂
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🙂

Hey, maybe Murchu should delete this thread .... Let's see where it goes. 😉
 
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