jzagaja
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And here is what Tango "saw"
Pali
Corrected in post or overexposured in scanner soft?
Netsoft2k
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Wow that's really impressive, Pali. There is no way my SM5000 could retrieve so much. The Tango is truly the king of shadow performance!
Thank you Kamph! I don't think SM5000 or even the SM11000 will come close to this. It is absolutely insane that Tango can see this because even with a loupe on a very bright lightbox, I don't see some of the details that are captured without any muddiness or noise by the Tango.
so my way too dark kodachrome slides are not that hopeless, you mean)
Exactly! I would have never thought this slide would be something that I would scan and share with everyone. I quite like the final image and I am sure your kodachrome will shine on a Tango too!
Impressive. No way for my Howtek to get anywhere near that...
Thank you brbo! I know Tango's are particular sought after for their shadow performance and now I know why.
Corrected in post or overexposured in scanner soft?
Jack, this is straight from the scanner software (Newcolor v2.2 on Mac OS 10.2). I followed the extended range profile tutorial from hutchcolor (link here) to create a profile to open up the shadows. In the software, there is an exposure setting which defaults to 0 and can be changed to -10 to +10. I changed this to +7 for this scan. Scanned as Tiff ProPhoto RGB 16 BIT and then adjust the white point slide on the levels. Simple as that!
Pali
Netsoft2k
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Here are few from my 1st test roll on the Hasselblad XPan. Such a fun camera to shoot with.

Garden Leaves by Pali K, on Flickr

Garden Leaves by Pali K, on Flickr

Bricks by Pali K, on Flickr
Hasselblad Xpan w/ 45mm | Kodak TMax 100 @ 65
JOBO CPP2 | HC110-B
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drum Scan
Pali

Garden Leaves by Pali K, on Flickr

Garden Leaves by Pali K, on Flickr

Bricks by Pali K, on Flickr
Hasselblad Xpan w/ 45mm | Kodak TMax 100 @ 65
JOBO CPP2 | HC110-B
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drum Scan
Pali
Netsoft2k
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Here are more XPan images from today's stroll around the town.

Graffiti Wall by Pali K, on Flickr

Bethesda Row by Pali K, on Flickr
Hasselblad XPan w 45mm | Kodak TMax 100
JOBO CPP2 | HC110-B
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drum Scan
Pali

Graffiti Wall by Pali K, on Flickr

Bethesda Row by Pali K, on Flickr
Hasselblad XPan w 45mm | Kodak TMax 100
JOBO CPP2 | HC110-B
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drum Scan
Pali
Kamph
Established
If I shot more positives a Tango would be at the top of my wishlist for sure. For negatives I'm guessing the Scanmates might actually be slightly better given their smaller aperture and thus theoretical higher resolution? I also find that the inversion proces is rather straight forward on my SM5000 - I rarely need to do a lot more than choose a black point and do a slight curves adjustment.
Recently I started doing enlargements in my dark room again and was surprised at how closely my wetprints matched my scans in tonality. The scans from the SM5000 looks analog as silly as that might sound. Still wishing for a solution to the 16bit bug though (grr)!
Recently I started doing enlargements in my dark room again and was surprised at how closely my wetprints matched my scans in tonality. The scans from the SM5000 looks analog as silly as that might sound. Still wishing for a solution to the 16bit bug though (grr)!
FujiLove
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I think this may just be the best thread on RRF! Amazing photos - keep them coming 
brbo
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Netsoft2k
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If I shot more positives a Tango would be at the top of my wishlist for sure. For negatives I'm guessing the Scanmates might actually be slightly better given their smaller aperture and thus theoretical higher resolution? I also find that the inversion proces is rather straight forward on my SM5000 - I rarely need to do a lot more than choose a black point and do a slight curves adjustment.
Recently I started doing enlargments in my dark room again and was surprised at how closely my wetprints matched my scans in tonality. The scans from the SM5000 looks analog as silly as that might sound. Still wishing for a solution to the 16bit bug though (grr)!
Kamph, that is my conclusion as well. I was not in the market for a Tango and would have never bought it had it not been for the SM11K board being lost in mail scare that I had for 3 months. Because of the situation, I started looking for a replacement SM11K and instead found a Tango which I am very happy about. I don't think Tango is necessary if you already have a good working drum scanner unless you shoot slides that have deep shadow details.
SM5K is an amazing scanner for most slides as well. Keep in mind that SM5K and SM11K resolve more shadow detail at the higher DPI settings.
Pali
Netsoft2k
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I think this may just be the best thread on RRF! Amazing photos - keep them coming![]()
I agree
Pali
Netsoft2k
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I hope reflective drum scans are OK, too?
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Beautiful! Nice to see some reflective scans.
Pali
Kamph
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Keep in mind that SM5K and SM11K resolve more shadow detail at the higher DPI settings.
Pali
I've noticed this as well. I was wondering if one might be able to get better shadow performance if one was to choose a larger aperture (at the expense of some resolution of course)? I've heard that choosing the smallest aperture on some of the Howtek scanners will introduce more noise in the shadows but i'm not sure if this is the case with the SM. They have different light sources after all.
Kamph
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I hope reflective drum scans are OK, too?
Fuji FP-100C Silk (Howtek 4500):
These are great, Brbo!
Netsoft2k
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Out again with the XPan but with slide film this time. Hope you like them.

After the rain by Pali K, on Flickr
Hasselblad XPan | 45MM F4
JOBO CPP2 | Tetenal E6
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drumscan

Morning light by Pali K, on Flickr
Hasselblad XPan | 45MM F4
JOBO CPP2 | Tetenal E6
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drumscan
Pali

After the rain by Pali K, on Flickr
Hasselblad XPan | 45MM F4
JOBO CPP2 | Tetenal E6
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drumscan

Morning light by Pali K, on Flickr
Hasselblad XPan | 45MM F4
JOBO CPP2 | Tetenal E6
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drumscan
Pali
Netsoft2k
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I scanned another version from the same roll at 5000 DPI to see how much resolution is there on the XPan image on Prova 100F. No surprise, there is amazing detail on the slide and this point and shoot camera can make quite big enlargements.

High Resolution Scan Sample
Hasselblad XPan 45mm | Fujifilm Provia 100F
JOBO CPP2 | Tetenal E6
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drum Scan
Link to the full 5000 DPI scan
Pali

High Resolution Scan Sample
Hasselblad XPan 45mm | Fujifilm Provia 100F
JOBO CPP2 | Tetenal E6
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drum Scan
Link to the full 5000 DPI scan
Pali
Netsoft2k
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Shadowed Time [4x5 Film] by Pali K, on Flickr
Sinar Norma 4x5 | Kodak Ektar 152mm f4.5 Tessar | Illford HP5+
JOBO CPP2 | HC-110 Dilution B | 5 Min @ 20° C
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drum Scan
Pali
Netsoft2k
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Gala Apples by Pali K, on Flickr
Hasselblad XPan | 45MM F4 | Fuji Provia 100F
JOBO CPP2 | Tetenal E6
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drumscan
Pali
Netsoft2k
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Norris
Newbie
Hi Guys,
tank's for the kind comments!
@ Pali > as always brilliant scann's!
At the moment we're moving.
So I unable to do any developing or scanning at the moment
But here are two scann's I did for a wile:
Klick on the image to view it large! The details are really impressive...
There is no grain visible - although it is a negative!
6x7 on Ektar 100 Bronica GS1 PG50m, Screen DT-S 1030ai
Kodak E100G, 90mm 4x5 (Linhof Technika IV), Screen DT-S 1030ai
tank's for the kind comments!
@ Pali > as always brilliant scann's!
At the moment we're moving.
So I unable to do any developing or scanning at the moment
But here are two scann's I did for a wile:
Klick on the image to view it large! The details are really impressive...
There is no grain visible - although it is a negative!

6x7 on Ektar 100 Bronica GS1 PG50m, Screen DT-S 1030ai

Kodak E100G, 90mm 4x5 (Linhof Technika IV), Screen DT-S 1030ai
Netsoft2k
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These a brilliant Norris!
Here is one more from today.

Apples on Large Format Ektachrome 64T by Pali K, on Flickr
Deardorff V8 w/ 5x7 Back | Fujinon 210mm f5.6 | Kodak Ektachrome 64T
JOBO CPP2 | Tetenal E6
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drumscan
Pali
Here is one more from today.

Apples on Large Format Ektachrome 64T by Pali K, on Flickr
Deardorff V8 w/ 5x7 Back | Fujinon 210mm f5.6 | Kodak Ektachrome 64T
JOBO CPP2 | Tetenal E6
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drumscan
Pali
Netsoft2k
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I re scanned this image to open up the shadows and correct green cast.

Apples Still [Rescan] by Pali K, on Flickr
Deardorff V8 w/ 5x7 Back | Fujinon 210mm f5.6 | Kodak Ektachrome 64T
JOBO CPP2 | Tetenal E6
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drumscan
Pali

Apples Still [Rescan] by Pali K, on Flickr
Deardorff V8 w/ 5x7 Back | Fujinon 210mm f5.6 | Kodak Ektachrome 64T
JOBO CPP2 | Tetenal E6
Heidelberg Tango PMT Drumscan
Pali
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