Vincent.G
Well-known
Interesting topic. I don't understand why we won't be excited about stuff we haven't seen before or understand yet. Considering that we humans have been exploring our deep oceans with fanciful robots and machines for years and yet we probably still have not "fully understand" what's down there, I choose to believe there is possibility of ETs and UFOs out there in the space (though I have not seen any YET) because the universe is so big and we humans are so small. It's hard to certainly deny that something does not exist just because we haven't seen it yet.
BTW, we have been discovering new species in the depths of the ocean and we are probably not done yet.
https://www.sciencealert.com/over-12-new-deep-sea-species-found-indian-ocean-singapore-indonesia
There was a period of time I was researching on whether mermaids (not the Hollywood kind
) exist. 
BTW, we have been discovering new species in the depths of the ocean and we are probably not done yet.
https://www.sciencealert.com/over-12-new-deep-sea-species-found-indian-ocean-singapore-indonesia
There was a period of time I was researching on whether mermaids (not the Hollywood kind
FujiLove
Well-known
Interesting topic. I don't understand why we won't be excited about stuff we haven't see before or understand yet. Considering that we humans have been exploring our deep oceans with fanciful robots and machines for years and yet we probably still have not "fully understand" what's down there, I choose to believe there is possibility of ETs and UFOs out there in the space (though I have not see any YET) because the universe is so big and we humans are so small. It's hard to certainly deny that something does not exist just because we didn't or haven't seen it yet.
BTW, we have been discovering new species in the depths of the ocean and we are probably not done yet.
https://www.sciencealert.com/over-12-new-deep-sea-species-found-indian-ocean-singapore-indonesia
There was a period of time I was researching on whether mermaids (not the Hollywood kind) exist.
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For the record, given the universe is potentially infinite in size, or close to it, I'm sure it's absolutely teeming with life. Absolutely 100% certain to be.
But are some of them visiting Earth? I think that's so unlikely that anyone suggesting it is needs to provide hard evidence. Are these images and videos posted online 'hard evidence'? No, not even close. Therefore it's all BS unless proved otherwise.
kuuan
loves old lenses
Can't see the relation to UFOs, nevertheless I feel oblidged to churn in regarding "over"population:
what are you actually talking about?
that we don't produce enough food?
that more people means using more natural resources, causing more pollution?
that more poor people means more people that want a fair share of the wealth which is concentrated in the hands of a few and that, we being the few, a need to protect our privilege?
facts:
Hunger, poverty and undernourishment has been going down:
https://ourworldindata.org/hunger-and-undernourishment
Today globally nearly 2 billion or more than double as many people suffer from overweight than suffer from food shortage and hunger:
http://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and-overweight https://www.smh.com.au/healthcare/o...hunger-lancet-study-says-20160317-gnlbwk.html
right now we produce about 20% more food that global population needs
https://www.fastcompany.com/3062692...es-world-hunger-food-waste-not-food-shortages
One third of global food production never finds its way onto our plates:
https://www.pik-potsdam.de/news/pre...food-waste-could-help-mitigate-climate-change
Worldwide about one third of produced food is wasted, in the USA it’s 40 %:
http://www.theworldcounts.com/counters/world_food_consumption_statistics/world_food_waste_statistics
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/22/40-of-u-s-food-wasted-report-says/
summing up:
We already produce much more food than would be required to feed the world's population well. Hunger persists not because of lack of produced food but because food production is about making profits, not about feeding the world.
Besides better contribution change of modes of production limiting pollution caused are the real challenges
what are you actually talking about?
that we don't produce enough food?
that more people means using more natural resources, causing more pollution?
that more poor people means more people that want a fair share of the wealth which is concentrated in the hands of a few and that, we being the few, a need to protect our privilege?
facts:
Hunger, poverty and undernourishment has been going down:
https://ourworldindata.org/hunger-and-undernourishment
Today globally nearly 2 billion or more than double as many people suffer from overweight than suffer from food shortage and hunger:
http://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and-overweight https://www.smh.com.au/healthcare/o...hunger-lancet-study-says-20160317-gnlbwk.html
right now we produce about 20% more food that global population needs
https://www.fastcompany.com/3062692...es-world-hunger-food-waste-not-food-shortages
One third of global food production never finds its way onto our plates:
https://www.pik-potsdam.de/news/pre...food-waste-could-help-mitigate-climate-change
Worldwide about one third of produced food is wasted, in the USA it’s 40 %:
http://www.theworldcounts.com/counters/world_food_consumption_statistics/world_food_waste_statistics
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/22/40-of-u-s-food-wasted-report-says/
summing up:
We already produce much more food than would be required to feed the world's population well. Hunger persists not because of lack of produced food but because food production is about making profits, not about feeding the world.
Besides better contribution change of modes of production limiting pollution caused are the real challenges
FujiLove
Well-known
Can't see the relation to UFOs, nevertheless I feel oblidged to churn in regarding "over"population:
what are you actually talking about?
that we don't produce enough food?
that more people means using more natural resources, causing more pollution?
that more poor people means more people that want a fair share of the wealth which is concentrated in the hands of a few and that, we being the few, a need to protect our privilege?
facts:
Hunger, poverty and undernourishment has been going down:
https://ourworldindata.org/hunger-and-undernourishment
Today globally nearly 2 billion or more than double as many people suffer from overweight than suffer from food shortage and hunger:
http://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and-overweight https://www.smh.com.au/healthcare/o...hunger-lancet-study-says-20160317-gnlbwk.html
right now we produce about 20% more food that global population needs
https://www.fastcompany.com/3062692...es-world-hunger-food-waste-not-food-shortages
One third of global food production never finds its way onto our plates:
https://www.pik-potsdam.de/news/pre...food-waste-could-help-mitigate-climate-change
Worldwide about one third of produced food is wasted, in the USA it’s 40 %:
http://www.theworldcounts.com/counters/world_food_consumption_statistics/world_food_waste_statistics
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/22/40-of-u-s-food-wasted-report-says/
summing up:
We already produce much more food than would be required to feed the world's population well. Hunger persists not because of lack of produced food but because food production is about making profits, not about feeding the world.
Besides better contribution change of modes of production limiting pollution caused are the real challenges
That may all be true, but most of that food is now grown using horrendous factory farming methods which are having huge environmental effects. We may be able to feed everyone on the planet (for now), but more people =
More environmental pollution
More noise
Less space
Rising crime
Damage to the climate via greenhouse gas emissions
Fewer habitats and resources for other species, leading to mass extinctions
Less water
More conflict between nations for resources
More mental stress
More epidemics and pandemics
A degrading quality of life for all but the richest
Etc. etc.
We're already living in what many scientists consider to be the sixth era of mass extinction on earth. And unlike all the other's, this one has been caused exclusively by humans, rather than natural events: basically climate change and loss of habitat.
Take England for example: 600 years ago, we had a population of about 4 million and the country looked like a paradise, with huge swathes of pristine forest, teeming with wildlife. Now we have 67 million people and it looks like a car park.
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