Erik van Straten
Veteran
I have shot some at Infinity focus, and yet they are all OOF. Am I doing something wrong, or am I expecting too much of the Summar?
Could it be the lens reacting to the Delta's and DDX?
Do you lock your lens when you pull it out?
Is there any haze visible in your lens when you look trough it against a strong light?
Do you use a shade?
The Summar, especially a coated Summar, is stopped down capable of the finest results.
For fine grain high contrast results, the Tmax400 film is the best you can get, but I don't think your Summar is reacting in a bad way to Ilford films.
Erik.
benji77
@R.F.F
Do you lock your lens when you pull it out?
Is there any haze visible in your lens when you look trough it against a strong light?
Do you use a shade?
The Summar, especially a coated Summar, is stopped down capable of the finest results.
For fine grain high contrast results, the Tmax400 film is the best you can get, but I don't think your Summar is reacting in a bad way to Ilford films.
Erik.
Hi Erik
Yes I lock it, no shade used though. I have not noticed any haze too.
I did a simple test for the contrast/film/grain. I shot the Summar with TriX@1600, and switched lens to a VC 35mm 1.4. The VC gave much higher contrast, while the Summar retained it low contrast, flat grey tone images. This simple test ruled out film/Developer issues
I am wondering if my copy needs a CLA, to ensure that its 'aligned' for focusing. Would this help?
helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
Erik van Straten
Veteran
I am wondering if my copy needs a CLA, to ensure that its 'aligned' for focusing. Would this help?
In any case a Summar needs a shade. The FLQOO and FOOKH are the best. The SOOMP and the FIKUS fall off all the time.
Of course in comparison a Summar, a lens of seventy years old, will have lower contrast than a modern VC lens, even when coated.
Make some shots from a tripod with precise focussing. When the pictures are unsharp, you'll need a repair.
Good luck,
Erik.
Mark Schretlen
mostly harmless
"Aging Gracefully #2" using a 1938 Summar on a pre-historic M8

johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
I went to Rock Werchter festival in Belgium last weekend and managed to smuggle the M2 + wartime Biogon 35/2.8 in on both visiting days. Sadly the shots are waaay out of line in this thread, but I will launch another thread with them soon.
@Mark: that portrait of a classic car would make the designer and manufacturing team all choke up, it's really something! That vineyard would probably love a large print on their office wall!? Lots of traditional skill and purity in that shot, if I were running that vineyard I'd jump on getting this shot for an advertisement etc!
@Mark: that portrait of a classic car would make the designer and manufacturing team all choke up, it's really something! That vineyard would probably love a large print on their office wall!? Lots of traditional skill and purity in that shot, if I were running that vineyard I'd jump on getting this shot for an advertisement etc!
Mark Schretlen
mostly harmless
Thank you, Johan. I am often pleasantly surprised with the Summar & M8 combination. They are 70 years apart in technology, but sometimes they seem like they were made for each other. Here is another pedestrian M8 shot that 1938 Summar seems to bring to life ...

Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero

Summar on a IIIc
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
I (still) love the way the 73mm Hektor renders. It's the sort of 'drop' from foreground to background rendering that amazes me. Sometimes, the foreground is a picture, the background is a classicist painting!
john neal
fallor ergo sum
jcrutcher
Veteran
jcrutcher
Veteran
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero

IIIa + 90mm f/4 Elmar (1937)
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Nice, Rick! This thread started with a 90mm Elmar shot and those are sooo impressing!
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Thanks Johan, Wollukstock offered some great shots.
One more from "Izzid?!". She contacted me recently complementing me on the photos of her band.
Same 90mm lens as above. Film is Ilford XP2 Super, exposed at 300 ISO

One more from "Izzid?!". She contacted me recently complementing me on the photos of her band.
Same 90mm lens as above. Film is Ilford XP2 Super, exposed at 300 ISO
john neal
fallor ergo sum
Rick - I would be careful, she looks like she fights her weight (IYSWIM) 
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
She's got a voice to match, John.
jcrutcher
Veteran
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Great lens that 2.8 cm Hektor, jcrutcher!
Erik.
Erik.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
In a way I was the least likely candidate to start this thread, since the post I started it with contained the first and only decent shot from an uncoated lens I had to show for me.
However, I love my pre-war Leitz Elmar 90/4.0 uncoated lens (issued 3 days before WWII!) and have jumped at the occasion when an uncoated Elmar 50/3.5 presented itself.
So, pretty soon I hope to contribute to this thread more!
Opinion asked: Do you guys feel that the uncoated lenses have the more distinctive rendering when they are used with film?
However, I love my pre-war Leitz Elmar 90/4.0 uncoated lens (issued 3 days before WWII!) and have jumped at the occasion when an uncoated Elmar 50/3.5 presented itself.
So, pretty soon I hope to contribute to this thread more!
Opinion asked: Do you guys feel that the uncoated lenses have the more distinctive rendering when they are used with film?
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