Regarding the latest closed thread

[Silva Lining]

Portuguese dried salted cod is very very different from fried fresh cod.

Yes, Yes it is😀

 

[Silva Lining]

Unfortunately everything’s political, consider one of the innocuous well-fed cat or dog photos on this site; someone from a less privileged parts of the world would get a different message about our priorities from those

Some people from certain parts of the world might have a good recipe for them! 😀

 

[MelanieC]

Yes 50 sheep and a barn full of wool which I always intended to treat and sell on markets, but never got to it actually. But the sheep are nice I enjoy keeping them ....

I could use some sheep. My dogs enjoy sheep.

 

[MelanieC]

Actually they can be found, deep fried in batter, in Marini's fish & chip shop about a mile from my house, hmmmm CHIPS...& MUSHY PEAS 😀 (Freedom Fries to those of you in the US)

Are you sure? My understanding is that codfish fisheries are so overfished that traditional fish and chips stands are now using dogfish sharks instead. (You know, the ones you dissect in biology class, with the giant, greasy livers. Yum!)

 

[Sparrow]

A few years ago, I read,
Quote:
Cod
A Biography of the Fish That Changed the World


Fascinating stuff...seriously.
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Steve

A Bristol merchant called Amharic once sent a fisherman called John Cabot after Cod-fish, the guys that worked for them became known as Americans I understand……….
😀

 

[xayraa33]

Giovanni Caboto was a fisherman?

 

[Sparrow]

Giovanni Caboto was a fisherman?

You’re probably right I’m working from memory

 

[smiling gecko]

aye carumba dude!! i tried not to wade into this one...

when the trolling starts, the bear baiting begins, etc i tend exit whatever thread it's in. whether it's vehemency is directed towards cameras, lenses, film, politics, religion, etc - i'm outta there.

i do so in part, because i don't want to invite confrontation/conflict/disharmony into my life. too many of those things and worse intrude into my life withouit an invitation. there are a few issues that i will respond to without hesitation and will accept nor give any quarter.

to the credit of the rff community most threads and posts engaged in debate - "lively discussion" - are done so with respect and courtesy.

to the credit of the moderators and el queso grande/el jefe del carga/ le roi the threads/posts that veer towards "the limit, the edge" are given notice, then continue on, are monitored and generally come to a natural terminus.

i know this is my problem...like some others i am sometimes affected by strong (some of which i percieve as negative) comments by a given poster on a "hot button" issue. i am here for photography. i learn alot by looking at other folks images and reading how they were made. i really don't want to let anything they say influence how i might view their work. it's difficult to separate these things sometimes.

alright, i've babbled enough...
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smile, breathe, relax and enjoy
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hasta la vista, voyez-vous plus tard, daskorava,fino al prossimo tempo, auf wiedersehen, vedali piu sucessivamente, shalom, zaijian, and ... later y’all 😛 😀 😛


kenneth
NEVER FORGET BESLAN
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"...patience and shuffle the cards"
miguel cervantes "nothing can be learned" herman hesse
"everybody knows everything" jack kerouac
"some memories are realities and better than anything" willa cather
" doo-wacka doo, wacka doo" roger miller
"we have met the enemy and they is us !" walt kelly (pogo)

 

[aad]

Joe beat me to it the word BACALA demands an exclamation point.

 

[Silva Lining]

Are you sure? My understanding is that codfish fisheries are so overfished that traditional fish and chips stands are now using dogfish sharks instead. (You know, the ones you dissect in biology class, with the giant, greasy livers. Yum!)

YUK! 😱

I think we still get 'real' cod its very expensive now. I prefer Haddock anyhoo!

 

[Flyfisher Tom]

Kim closed it just in time, IMHO.

One particular comment was 'fighting' and blatantly ignorant in nature. Had Kim not exercised good judgment in shutting it down, it would have deteriorated into an ugly shouting match.

Morality, politics, religion ... you will never convert another person on these issues. And it is almost pointless to try to do so on a photography forum. But if you want to tilt at windmills, do it face to face ... at least you can settle it with a beer when you both realize how futile it is 🙂

 

[xayraa33]

" Morality, politics, religion"..

to quote a Ronnie Self line in one of his rock a billy songs,:

" forget about the dangers and think of the fun".

 

[PhotoMat]

... Reading strong political opinions does color how I perceive a member, no matter the topic they are posting on...

Regardless of how hard we may try to filter out the views of others with whom we disagree with over contentious subjects, I think that this does color our views of other forum members. It's human nature. Here, we are dealing with internet personas -- we don't have the pleasure of knowing other forum members in real life. Consequently, the views that we form can be somewhat tainted or inaccurate, and eventually, this will begin to appear in tenor of future threads.

The Leica Forum at pnet is a prime example (and an entirely different subject). Over there, it is unfortunate to see how many threads have been hijacked and taken a nose-dive into the mud when differing internet personalities use every opportunity to trade barbs and insults. Do we want that to happen here? Sure, it wouldn't happen overnight, but it would eventually happen. Incremental loss of civility has a cumulative effect, and if Jorge feels that the RFF would be better without us delving into potentially contentious issues, more power to him.

I like this forum and the way in which members treat each other with courtesy and respect. It would be a shame to see this group sink to a level of crass, base behaviour that is all too often seen in other internet venues.

 

[Al Patterson]

I would have locked it also. In disclosure, I'm a libertarian, and can't stand all the liberal and conservative drones that flood the internet with their political garbage. I come here to get away from that stuff.

 

[Nando]

Back in the early 1990's cod stock off the Grand Banks in Newfoundland was so low due to overfishing that the cod fishing industry in Canada collapsed. Being Portuguese, I really like my bacalhau but now I only eat it on special occasions like Christmas. Prior to this, we had bacalhau usually twice or three times a week. The extremely high prices for cod fish is the main factor but I also feel a bit guilty because the overfishing (particularly foreign overfishing) cost 40,000+ Canadian jobs. Its kind of funny because when my parents were children in Portugal, cod fish was considered the food of the poor and working classes. Now its very expensive.

Now, for a taste of home, we usually go for sardines. They're still cheap and easy to find. The only problem is that my neighbours complain about the smell.

 

[smiling gecko]

you mean baccala - salted cod?? bene, molto bene. molto saporito.

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smile, breathe, relax and enjoy
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hasta la vista, voyez-vous plus tard, daskorava,fino al prossimo tempo, auf wiedersehen, vedali piu sucessivamente, shalom, zaijian, ... later y’all 😛 😀 😛

kenneth lockerman
NEVER FORGET BESLAN
www.neverforgetbeslan.com
kenneth@neverforgetbeslan.com

"...patience and shuffle the cards" miguel cervantes "nothing can be learned" herman hesse
"everybody knows everything" jack kerouac
"some memories are realities and better than anything" willa cather
" doo-wacka doo, wacka doo" roger miller
"we have met the enemy and they is us !" walt kelly (pogo)

 

[back alley]

are there 2 c's in baccala?
😉

 

[Athena]

Just as a historical note, salted cod, aka "baccala" (and other alterntive spellings) came about as a means of preserving the cod catch of those fisheries that did not have landing privileges in the North Atlantic portion of the New World where the cod were plentiful.

Basically, only England and France had colonies where they could dry cod on racks without having to use salt. This was known as green cod. Even today you will find dried fish that has not been salted because it was dried by air.*

The Portugese mainly (and some Spanish etc.) fishermen did not have access to colonies off the North Atlantic (e.g. the Grand and Georges Banks) and so had to preserve their catch on-board. So they placed them in barrels and covered them with salt to preserve the catch and hasten the drying process.

This dried, salted cod was sold throughout the Meditteranean area such that in Portugal, Spain, Southern France, Italy and Greece - the "baccala" became a protein-staple.

* At the end of the Seven-Years War in the mid-18th C. - known as the French and Indian War in North America, France ceded virtually all of its colonial holdings in North America to Britain. It was allowed to keep two small islands off the coast between Newfoundland and Nova Scotia (the Canadians here will know their names) solely for the purpose of keeping their ability to use "green drying" methods. France still controls these two islands today.

And now, back to your regularly scheduled program.

Oh, and no, to the fellow who claimed otherwise, we here in the US DO NOT call them Freedom Fries. Where do people come up with such "poppycock"? 🙂

 

[xayraa33]

Saint-Pierre and Miquelon

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

Agree Nick. That's what I thought the "Off Topic" subforum was for....there was no rudeness or foul language involved at all.

Ditto.

??? didn't dadsm3 say exactly the same thing?