RFF photgraphers' credentials

I'm thinking that I may turn my blog into an online "magazine" of sorts and make my own credentials. I'll shoot and post the images with a short story describing the event, if asked who I shoot for I'll whip out my badge and show them. I don't see why this wouldn't work, and it would be a good way to create some meaningful projects. If someone wants to check my credentials they can call the number on my badge... it'll be my cell phone :)

Todd
 
Todd.Hanz said:
I'm thinking that I may turn my blog into an online "magazine" of sorts and make my own credentials. I'll shoot and post the images with a short story describing the event, if asked who I shoot for I'll whip out my badge and show them. I don't see why this wouldn't work, and it would be a good way to create some meaningful projects. If someone wants to check my credentials they can call the number on my badge... it'll be my cell phone :)

Todd

In all seriousness, if you have a blog, you ARE the press. CBS started somewhere you know. A lot of big names work free lance still, do they not?
 
So when I'm at PMA can I say I blog for RFF and try to bluff my way into secret little
areas to seek out secret little things?

Or maybe I'll just say I'm with the Huffington Post...
 
Basically, you can get away with whatever you can get away with. Recently a political bunch asked me to photograph a fundraiser. I did not want to do this, so I quoted a very high price. Unfortunately, they said yes, so I gave it to my son, a DSLR whizz-bang, because I really hate that sort of job. He has no press credentials, so I gave him mine. No one noticed. We split fifty-fifty. If anyone had really looked at the photo on the press card, they would have noticed - how shall I phrase this - an age discrepency?

Ted
 
yossarian said:
So when I'm at PMA can I say I blog for RFF and try to bluff my way into secret little
areas to seek out secret little things?

Or maybe I'll just say I'm with the Huffington Post...

Fred,
Actually, we all write for RFF. Hey, there's always Horse and Hounds magazine.
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R.J.
 
RJ: That was hilarious - Horses and Hounds - I mean. Now there's a press credential if I ever saw one. "Horses and Hounds" sounds a bit high tone, plus it's squeaky clean. Who would question a press guy from H&H? Who doesn't love horses and dogs? Actually I'm not particularly fond of riding horses as a few have flat tried to kill me. But they are, indeed, marvelous animals, especially photographically, and especially in terms of their role in the mythical West, where I happen to live. Read, for example, Cormack McCarthy's All the Pretty Horses, or The Crossing. As the New York Times said of ATPH, the real hero of this novel is the English language.

Ted
 
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tedwhite said:
RJ: That was hilarious - Horses and Hounds - I mean. Now there's a press credential if I ever saw one. "Horses and Hounds" sounds a bit high tone, plus it's squeaky clean. Who would question a press guy from H&H? Who doesn't love horses and dogs? Actually I'm not particularly fond of riding horses as a few have flat tried to kill me. But they are, indeed, marvelous animals, especially photographically, and especially in terms of their role in the mythical West, where I happen to live. Read, for example, Cormack McCarthy's All the Pretty Horses, or The Crossing. As the New York Times said of ATPH, the real hero of this novel is the English language.

Ted

Ted,

Actually, I stole the idea from the movie Notting Hill.
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R.J.
 
RJ: YOu know from where to steal. 17 miles east of the arch puts you in southern Illinois. I once taught Photography and English at Blackburn College (in Carlinville, IL) which is about 60 miles north of the arch. I recall wandering around East St. Louis once, taking pictures, when an unmarked police car pulled up. Out came two large, black plainclothes types, who ordered me to get back in my car and get going. "What? Y'all tryin' to get killed? Walkin' around with them cameras? They gonna slit your throat for them cameras." I gathered they probably knew whereof they spoke. I left.
 
tedwhite said:
RJ: YOu know from where to steal. 17 miles east of the arch puts you in southern Illinois. I once taught Photography and English at Blackburn College (in Carlinville, IL) which is about 60 miles north of the arch. I recall wandering around East St. Louis once, taking pictures, when an unmarked police car pulled up. Out came two large, black plainclothes types, who ordered me to get back in my car and get going. "What? Y'all tryin' to get killed? Walkin' around with them cameras? They gonna slit your throat for them cameras." I gathered they probably knew whereof they spoke. I left.

Ted,

I've heard stories of the East St. Louis police being overly protective if you look like you have no business being in their community. It sounds like you may have met Detective Delbert "pit bull" Marion.

You've heard of the tennis player Jimmy Connors? His grandfather was mayor of East St. Louis from 1939-1951.

It's much safer since the casino opened several years ago. I walked out of the casino one night with $2,000 in my pocket and didn't have any problems at all.

I've heard good things about student involvement in the operations of Blackburn College.

R.J.
 
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tedwhite said:
He has no press credentials, so I gave him mine. No one noticed. We split fifty-fifty. If anyone had really looked at the photo on the press card, they would have noticed - how shall I phrase this - an age discrepency?

Stupid question, maybe, but what actually constitutes a valid "Press Card"?

Who is really authorized to issues press credentials? And what are the criteria that "they" use to determine if a press card/pass/whatever is legitimate?
 
I wonder at the process for determining "legitimacy" of press credentials in a country with 1st amendment type freedoms and the technology for every person to be the "press."
Why am I less legitimate than CBS? Sure I've got a smaller budget and no audience, but I've got it all over them when it comes to integrity.
 
dmr said:
Stupid question, maybe, but what actually constitutes a valid "Press Card"?

Who is really authorized to issues press credentials? And what are the criteria that "they" use to determine if a press card/pass/whatever is legitimate?

Good question, Denise. We might have to read the Patriot Act.

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R.J.
 
dmr said:
Stupid question, maybe, but what actually constitutes a valid "Press Card"?

Who is really authorized to issues press credentials? And what are the criteria that "they" use to determine if a press card/pass/whatever is legitimate?


This varies by location. Some police departments issue them in certain areas, and some are issued by the local municipality.

As for saying one has more "integrity" than someone else, there aren't thousands, if not millions, of people getting their information from you. there is only so much space to shoot from quite often, and it's better for the spots on the sidelines at the Super Bowl to go to someone who is doing this for a living and to publish for a wide audience. These pros who get the spots have to prove themselves to their editors to get assigned, so they usually have more experience, so they are less likely to mess up (no offense).

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By the way (on a slightly different topic), if I hear one more person b*tch about being asked to stop taking photos in a store or a mall, I'm going to freak out and punch a wall. It's private property. The owners have the only say in whether you can shoot there. Think of it like this: your friends come over with their friends who you don't know. The "friends" start taking photos of your equipment, your computer, and your other valuables. How do you know they aren't trying to rob you? They are trying to cover their own *sses.
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Have a nice day,
Bob Clark
 
In New Jersey I belive the only "official" press passes are issued thru the State Police. You and your host news organization must both contact them. You get a car card, and an ID to hang around your neck. But, as it only takes the NJSP a year or two to process anything.... good luck. I can attest to the fact that most police must see "something official-looking" hanging from your neck, and they'll let you by. (I was a police officer for almost 30 years)

Another way to get access is to keep showing up at scenes or events, and inch your way closer at each event. Do not expect full access right away. After a while, they'll get to recognise you and give you slack, but only if you're not pushy or don't get too close and in the way, say at an accident scene. Start from a distance and inch your way closer, don't rush in. And pretty soon in the back of their mind it'll be: "Oh, I recognise him, he's harmless, I'll give him 5 or so minutes to shoot then I'll nudge him away." And sometimes they even forget to come over and shoo you away.
 
The discussion about malls reminds me of the scene recently (December) around The Dakota, a famous apartment building on Central Park West in NYC. The one John lennon and Yoko Ono lived in, and where Yoko still lives, and the spot outside of which where his killer came up to him and shot Lennon. Some movie about Lennon's killing was being shot on the 25th anniversary of the murder, and filming was set up right there on the sidewalk at the actual crime scene, and they were using the real Dakota, private property of course, as the backdrop. Actors dressed as all the original participants, perpetrator, victim, police, etc. Well, this understandably freaked out Yoko to no end, and even with all her pull around NYC, and her likability factor, there was nothing that could be done to stop the shoot. It seems all the production company had to do was get the proper filming permits from NYC, which they did, and no one, not even the owner of the private property could stop it, because it was being done from the street and sidewalk, with all the permits.

Extremely bad taste, I think, I'm sure they could have used a set or another look-alike building, they didn't have to do it right there in front of Yoko Ono.
 
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