Rollei Ortho film - what developer? Rodinal?

[Jaans]

I recently exposed two rolls of Rollei Ortho 25 film, one at EI: 25 and the other at EI: 50.

I have a bottle of Rodinal and TMAX developer. I looked at the Massive Development Chart and there were times for the Rodinal but not the TMAX developer. So, I guess that using Rodinal would be the preferred developer of the two.

So, does anyone have experience with Rodinal and this film? Are the times on the MD Chart reliabe (they seem short)? What about agitation etc What can I expect?

Thanks for any information on this!

 

[Chris101]

I have developed one roll of this film, and have note even exposed my second roll yet. I used D76 on it and the contrast was VERY low. I would think that rodinal would do well, but be sure to give the film enough development to get sufficient contrast.

 

[Jaans]

Thanks Chris for that information. I haven't developed the roll yet as I am still awaiting for my next Rodinal bottle in the mail after recently running out.

My favorite photographer - Joseph Koudelka has a number of images on the Magnum website where this film was used. The grain appears surprisingly smooth.

I exposed the rolls recently on the weekend as I had run out of TRI-X and was at an event. I had popped those rolls in my bag as I bought them months ago on a whim. I was shooting at a shutter speed of 1/60 with my M6 and the aperture was 5.6 and 8. We were outside, the winter sun was shining but it was about 2:30 and there were shadows.

I am now really looking forward to processing them. If anyone has done it with Rodinal, please tell all^^

 

[Fotohuis]

Yes, 1+50 but still have a pretty high contrast so my last attempts were with RLC a low contrast document developer, really great results!
But take notice that document developers you have to make with destilled or R.O. water because the developer is sensitive for metal ions in the tap water.
Results you can see on my Flickr photostream and in my Gallery.
Here some data:
http://www.fotohuisrovo.nl/documentatie/Development_Rollei films.pdf

 

[sepiareverb]

I use Rodinal on the Rollei Ortho film, 1:25 but with very minimal agitation. Contrasty negs, but perfectly printable. I expose at ISO 20.

I've got some of the Rollei RLC on order to try as well.

 

[sniki]

I'm very very happy souping Rollei Ortho film in Rodinal 1:100 for 1 hour in standing development method.

 

[alfredian]

RO9 (Foma) works well with ADOX ORT 25

RO9 (Foma) works well with ADOX ORT 25

Before the somebody pulled the plug on ADOX's ORT 25 I did both 35mm & 120 in Fomadon RO9 @ 1+40, 20'C for 6 minutes, same as Efke KB/R25. The old films seem to like the old formulas. For whatever reason (less bromide salts?) the modern Rodinal ends up with different times even at simliar (1+50) dilutions. With RO9 1+40 ortho/25 comes out sharp, crisp (not too soft) but no way totally litho, either. One time I did 7 minutes (memory lapse on my part) and the 2+2 rolls of Efke & ADOX I was doing both came out quite well.

My theory is that ADOX/Efke had to pull the plug on branding roll film as theirs when Rollei wanted to brand it. Then again, you can get A/E in sheet film. If you use RO9 ("Rodinol original"?) be sure to shake the bottle - the bromide salts tend to crystallize out to the bottom.

 

[Freakscene]

If you use RO9 ("Rodinol original"?) be sure to shake the bottle - the bromide salts tend to crystallize out to the bottom.

The precipitate in Rodinal and RO9 are partly from recrystallisation of the p-aminophenol and partly from aminophenoxy free radicals polymerising to form indophenol.

Recrystallisation of the p-aminophenol occurs spontaneously. At the same time alkaline autoxidation occurs, creating p-aminophenoxy free radicals; these react to form indophenol. I have confirmed this by analysis of the precipitate.

Shaking will not reverse this process, but may accelerate it. The precipitate does not seem to indicate if the developer has gone off - some very old Rodinal and Calbe RO9 I have used developed negatives to almost indistinguishable densities from fresh equivalents.

Marty

 

[Fotohuis]

I have used developed negatives to almost indistinguishable densities from fresh equivalents.

Yes, less then 0,05 log D on the densitometer.

and thanks for the professional explanation of the Rodinal chemistry. Indeed do not try to shake and solve the crystals because it won't work 🙂

 

[sepiareverb]

I've never heard that precipitate was a problem, nor seen any problems from it.

 

[Fotohuis]

I've never heard that precipitate was a problem, nor seen any problems from it.

If you empty the bottle within 2 years not but when it's older you have some crystalls on the bottom. Not a problem if you leave them on the bottom 🙂