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spiderfrank

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Bessa R, Superia X-tra 400 iso, CV 35mm f2.5
( face "erased" for privacy )

Ciao
Franco
 
Very nice one, thanks for sharing. Perhaps would look even better in B&W.
What's wrong with child's face ? Can't see reason to hide one, there is no any kind of offensive contentin the image.

I really like the image, inspiring...
 
loslosbaby said:
I'll go ahead and speak up--I have currently 6 photos being used without my permission on the web.

This is a hilarious and sad example how the supposed copyright laws don't work:

http://www.panic.com/extras/ripoff/

G.

Am I missing something here? I was wondering why the photo of the running girl was posted with the face brushed out.
 
Here in Italy there is a stupid and not so clear law about privacy: you can shot a man in the street if the subject is the street, but you need his permission if he is the subject of the photo. To be more precise... You can take all the photos you want, but you need his permission if you want to public them (a book, or internet). But... You can shot him if he is a "public man", or if you are documenting a manifestation or en "event", and if you and your subject are in a public place.

So, to be sure... I erased the face!

It's absurd, I know... (let's think of how many HCB shots we couldn't enjoy now, is there was been such a law when he worked) but I want to be sure not to have problems

Ciao
Franco
ps: thank you for your comments
 
Franco, are you sure? I had not heard of this. Yes, you need permission here in the US to use a photo of someone for profit reasons (advertisement, professional promotion of some sort) but for editorial, personal or even artistic reasons you can use a photo of anyone as long as you are not using their image in some kind of defamatory way. Are you maybe mis-interpreting the law? Anyone else from Italy can comment on this?
 
Franco, I really admire your worry about law, but you don't have to do that here.
I just wonder - how HCB or Winogrand would like photos without faces 😛
If you shoot to express your photographic mind/heart there nothing wrong with faces on photos. Members of this forum are in general kind, family people 🙂
Regards, Vlad.
P.S. Well composed - I just would like a little wider FOV
 
no face

no face

Franco is lucky in a way, here in the uk if you took a picture of a child without the parents consent its likely you would be met by the angry parents or arrested or both.It is becoming quite a sick world we are living in.
 
iandg said:
Franco is lucky in a way, here in the uk if you took a picture of a child without the parents consent its likely you would be met by the angry parents or arrested or both.It is becoming quite a sick world we are living in.

yes, the world is sick but we believe that this is one healthy forum 🙂
 
all of this (people in the street bit) is a big concern for me now. my heart and mind is completely comitted to shooting people in their environment, "street" photography if you will... i just moved to a region of the world where judgement was passed a few years ago AGAINST the photographer. he had taken a photo of a girl and then DONATED it to a small literary group for a book cover. thousands of dollars were awarded to the girl.
the ironic thing is if you go to the local museum... all the images you see of the city many years into the past are full of people. the only visual glimpse of the times past. i can't imagine someone in the future explaining the huge hole in our visual history... well you see, there was this "war on terrorism" thing...
bugger!
i'm seriously considering selling all my gear for some medium/large format stuff and shooting landscapes.
 
emraphoto said:
all of this (people in the street bit) is a big concern for me now. my heart and mind is completely comitted to shooting people in their environment, "street" photography if you will... i just moved to a region of the world where judgement was passed a few years ago AGAINST the photographer. he had taken a photo of a girl and then DONATED it to a small literary group for a book cover. thousands of dollars were awarded to the girl.
the ironic thing is if you go to the local museum... all the images you see of the city many years into the past are full of people. the only visual glimpse of the times past. i can't imagine someone in the future explaining the huge hole in our visual history... well you see, there was this "war on terrorism" thing...
bugger!
i'm seriously considering selling all my gear for some medium/large format stuff and shooting landscapes.

And let a small minority stop us from doing what we love NEVER.
 
Hi Franco,

Here in Italy there is a stupid and not so clear law about privacy: you can shot a man in the street if the subject is the street, but you need his permission if he is the subject of the photo. To be more precise... You can take all the photos you want, but you need his permission if you want to public them (a book, or internet). But... You can shot him if he is a "public man", or if you are documenting a manifestation or en "event", and if you and your subject are in a public place.

So, to be sure... I erased the face!
You have my sympathy - that's a real bummer. And it's so frustrating too - it looks like you probably have a great photo there, but without being able to see the child's face it's not really possible to tell.
 
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