Seeing a lot of Fuji X-Pro 1's for sale

one more comment from non-user. XPro1 surely did exceed my expectations and this recent talk has not reduced it one bit :)

also dont think there was more hyping than any other major camera release, OM-D for example has been hyped here least as much. as again non-user, dont know yet did it exceed my expectations... ;)
 
SausalitoDog said:
Obsolete? Really

Fuji seems to be a lot more concerned about existing camera owners than most of the competition.

The x100 had a couple of terrific firmware upgrades this year.

The Xpro-1 will have an upgrade that is expected to match all of the features in the xe-1 except hardware (evf resolution and built in diopter).

I'm not seeing that kind of help on a regular basis from anyone else...
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The after-purchase improvements go a long way to improve Fuji's offerings and keep them competitive. I would rather have use of my camera since May than wait until now for the next generation AF lens motors and optimized AF firmware. The penalty for early adaption seems trivial to me. Many reports of focusing issues do not represent what can be done with the camera.

When someone has a similarly priced system that significantly exceeds the IQ, or provides lenses with obviously superior optics, and has an OVF and EVF, then you can write the X-Pro 1 is obsolete.
 
I completely agree, w9. I'd read reviews before I bought mine, and talked to people who owned them. I knew exactly what I was getting. That's due diligence.
 
So I wrote this a day ago:

semilog said:
The XF 18 is not a super-sharp landscape lens, but for a pancake, lightweight (116 g) fast (f/2) 28mm EFL lens that sells for $600, it is very, very good — particularly at medium range and particularly wide open. These features make it an outstanding reportage lens. It also is by far the fastest-focusing of the three current XF lenses.
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And this:

One other thing about the XF 18/2. It is superbly flare-resistant, even without the excellent hood.
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...and today the good folks at LensTip posted their review of the 18/2 ...with which I totally agree. :D

I would add that it is particularly informative to compare the resolution results of the Fujinon XF 18/2 on the X-Pro1 to the results obtained for the Summicron ASPH 28/2 on the M9.

Even accounting for the fact the M9 is 18.5 Mpix on FF and the X-Pro is 16 Mpix on APS-C the Fujinon -- with many internet twirps have claimed to be a substandard offering -- approaches the Summicron ASPH when used on the M9, even at the periphery, and it is especially competitive when used at wide apertures.
 
Obsolete From Day 1

Obsolete From Day 1

Here's my view.

As cameras became digital they became akin to computers.

X-pro1 = digital camera = obsolete at the moment I bought it. :cool:

I knew that going in and love the camera and lenses.

Without the OVF the X-e1 does not interest me as a primary camera.
I'd love an M-9 but the cost/obsolescence curve is way beyond me.
-Framus
 
Godfrey said:
Film cameras were obsoleted regularly too. The difference was that people didn't feel so terribly pushed to buy a new model as quickly because the differences from old to new were smaller, most of the time.
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Also, the recording medium was the same. If you had a Nikon F and knew how to use it, you could get a perfectly exposed frame of Tri-X. The F2 may have given you different or more sophisticated exposure tools, but once you mastered them, the result was, ideally, the same: a perfectly exposed frame of Tri-X. There was no difference in the resulting image quality. Now, of course, you are often getting a new "medium" when you get a new digital body. And I can tell you that my Nikon D3 was a QUANTUM LEAP from the Canon Digi_Rebel. Just night and day.

The ones I feel badly for -- and who are getting crushed by this nutty 11-month product cycle -- are the small retailers. My local guy has had a NEX7 sitting on his shelf for the last six months. Now that the NEX6 has come out I think the older model it is going to be harder to sell.

I have written in other posts that for my photography I am basically "there" in terms of image quality. In fact I was using my now ancient Olympus EP-2 last week very happily. And I took an M9 and XP1 on a job this week and the client is ecstatic about the results. The new Olympus and the new Fuji tug at me, but I haven't "gotten the good" out of the current models I have. Maybe in a couple of years. Now about that new Sony RX1 . . .
 
rbelyell said:
xp1: 1 pound, 5.5x3.2x1.7. 1.5 crop $1500

d600: 1.5 pounds, 5.5x4.5x3.2 FF $2000

that aint your moms nikon! and it aint d800 size either.
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Yes but the camera bodies need lenses. That D600 is gonna weigh a ton compared to the XP1 once you include the lenses.

They are very different tools.

-rasterdogs
 
fstops said:
The main difference between D600 and Xpro1 is, one of them you use to make a living, go to war, go to rainforests, go to mountains... The other you take to the local Starbucks and put it on the table, while pretending that you're not conscious of the fact that people will look at your camera and compliment you.



I'm not a very funny person but I tried to make this point in a funny way.
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:)
Not sure about your Starbucks, but at mine most folks could give a fig about cameras. Now, if you put your new iPhone on the table you can get real props; maybe even robbed.

-rasterdogs
 
Koven great picture. X200 there have been rumors in the past, but recently Fuji said no.. Which is why I said I hope the Sony rx1 pushes Fuji into bringing the xp1 sensor to the x100 in a different thread.

Gary
 
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