Show me your 9x12 folder

[John E Earley]

Since the enlarging paper used for the negative is orthrochromatic, it can be cut to size, loaded in a septum and after exposure, developed under a safelight. Unfortunately, it records reds much darker and blues and greens much lighter than they really are. If variable contrast paper is used, the contrast can be controled to a degree with filters.

I made a small template to use when cutting paper to the correct 9x12 size. That makes it much easier and cleaner. From paper safe to camera, to scanned negative takes about 10 minutes.

 

[John E Earley]

Also, enlarging paper negatives tend to be somewhat more contrasty than film. Since the older lenses in these 9x12cm cameras are a bit lower in contrast, it kind of evens out.

 

[John E Earley]

Zeiss Ikon Maximar 9x12, Zeiss Tessar 13.5cm@5.6, 1/8sec on Ilford Multigrade RC negative developed in Ilford Multigrade developer. Scanned on an Epson V600, inverted, adjusted for contrast and cropped in Pixelmator.

 

[Ron (Netherlands)]

Oh, I forgot to show my 9x12 'folder' in this nice and interesting thread. Well here she is:


Zeiss Ikon Favorit by Ron (Netherlands), on Flickr


Groundglass 9x12 by Ron (Netherlands), on Flickr

 

[citizen99]

^ Very nice 🙂.

 

[Ron (Netherlands)]

^ Very nice 🙂.

thank you John. Had a look at your flickr site: very impressive work: I especially like the interesting series on the Ensign Midget!

 

[oftheherd]

That's a wonderful looking Zeiss, Ron. Being wood, it will be lighter to carry as well. I have some metal 9x12, like the Kodak (Nagle) cameras. They are nice, but not light.

 

[Ron (Netherlands)]

That's a wonderful looking Zeiss, Ron. Being wood, it will be lighter to carry as well. I have some metal 9x12, like the Kodak (Nagle) cameras. They are nice, but not light.

Thanks. Before I acquired this Zeiss I didn't know that these had interchangeable lens/shutter combo's. Like the Voigtländers this Zeiss has a kind of bayonet mount. As you probably know the shutters have a ring which coincides with the mount. I'm still looking to find someone who can make some more of those rings for this camera so I can put on different lens/shutter combo's.

 

[oftheherd]

Thanks. Before I acquired this Zeiss I didn't know that these had interchangeable lens/shutter combo's. Like the Voigtländers this Zeiss has a kind of bayonet mount. As you probably know the shutters have a ring which coincides with the mount. I'm still looking to find someone who can make some more of those rings for this camera so I can put on different lens/shutter combo's.

I didn't know Zeiss made any 9x12 interchangeable lenses. Bee Bee did, Voigtlander did, And I think I heard of another, maybe one or two not well known models of the Welta.

 

[Ron (Netherlands)]

I didn't know Zeiss made any 9x12 interchangeable lenses. Bee Bee did, Voigtlander did, And I think I heard of another, maybe one or two not well known models of the Welta.

Yes, all 'top model' folders had interchangeable shutter/lens combinations with a kind of bayonet: the Zeiss Ikon Tropical, Favorit, Ideal, Juwel and probably also the Maximar but not the rollfilm folders.

 

[oftheherd]

The Bee Bee had I think two other lenses. One about equivalent to 80mm, and the other to 35mm. There were also, and these days very available on ebay, aux lenses in series 6, of tele and wide lenses, as well as closeups and portrait lenses. The Bee Bee interchanged lenses by two flanges, top and bottom, one with a spring in it. The lens then locked in by a rotating lock with a long circular tab on it.

 

[Nokton48]

A Full Box of 9x12cm Kodak Film Sheaths.

A Full Box of 9x12cm Kodak Film Sheaths.

Found this full box of 9x12cm Kodak Film Sheaths recently.

I'm getting closer and closer to my goal, of having thirty-six 9x12cm Normalfalz Planfilm Kassettes. Got three more Voigtlander ones today, but haven't recieved them yet.

 

[Nokton48]

9x12cm Voigtlander Normalfalz-Metallkassette

9x12cm Voigtlander Normalfalz-Metallkassette

New in the original printed paper wrappers. A rare find for me.
Three 9x12cm "Voigtlander Normalfalz-Metallkassette" in unused condition.

Fits my three Plaubel Makiflexes.

 

[oftheherd]

Nice catches Nokton48. Do the Voigtlanders have the film sheaths? That is the thing I have found most difficult. Especially in the Russian film holders. I have had sellers reply that I can use glass backs. I believe that is so, having heard others talk about doing it, but surely inconvenient.

36 hoders? Wow, I only have about 25 and I think I really have all I need. But I only say that until I spot the next bargain. 😀

Do you have any idea what manufacturer's cameras used the 9x12 holders that didn't have a slot in the holder? I have seen some that were just a solid side, not slotted.

 

[Dcanalogue]

My first Folder

My first Folder

This is my first folder ever (Zeiss Ikon Ikonta 521/2... bought a couple of weeks ago...can't wait to scan my first roll...) and a second (Rheinmetall Weltax) is coming this week...... 😀

 

[Nokton48]

Do the Voigtlanders have the film sheaths? Do you have any idea what manufacturer's cameras used the 9x12 holders that didn't have a slot in the holder? I have seen some that were just a solid side, not slotted.

No the Voigtlanders do not normally come with film sheaths, but the Kodak 9x12 Film Sheaths fit nicely into most of the Voigtlanders, as well as the Russian holders, and the ones from Rada in Germany (those are unmarked but have the ribbed lines on them). I require "Normalfalz" holders for my Plaubel Makiflexes, see the Rada catalog link earlier in this thread, to see the differences and names of the various holder types.

Not sure about other holder styles, but I recently bought some Kodak 9x12 film sheaths that came with some holders with no slots on the end, the seller said the holders fit an "Ica". Not sure but I hope that helps.

 

[Nokton48]

Five more RADA "Normalfalz"-style 9x12cm holders, with the original RADA 9x12 film sheaths in them. Quite old, and in beautiful condition, now cleaned up, and ready-to-go. Also got another unmarked one (I think it is French?) in the same lot. I am particularly looking for these rare RADA ones, as I believe they were distributed by Plaubel, in the early sixties. So they match my three Plaubel Makiflex cameras.

Also five more Voigtlander 9x12cm holders in the "Normalfalz"-style are on the way to me. That will give me 37 holders; enough to load two or three emulsions, in a dozen or so of each. Enough to do a serious day's work.

 

[oftheherd]

Five more RADA "Normalfalz"-style 9x12cm holders, with the original RADA 9x12 film sheaths in them. Quite old, and in beautiful condition, now cleaned up, and ready-to-go. Also got another unmarked one (I think it is French?) in the same lot. I am particularly looking for these rare RADA ones, as I believe they were distributed by Plaubel, in the early sixties. So they match my three Plaubel Makiflex cameras.

Also five more Voigtlander 9x12cm holders in the "Normalfalz"-style are on the way to me. That will give me 37 holders; enough to load two or three emulsions, in a dozen or so of each. Enough to do a serious day's work.

Glad to see you progressing. Those tings are getting harder and harder to find. I did notice some different ones on ebay last week.

 

[John E Earley]

Zeiss Ikon 9x12 Plate camera with 2 film holders by Earley Photography, on Flickr

 

[oftheherd]

Zeiss Ikon 9x12 Plate camera with 2 film holders by Earley Photography, on Flickr

Nice looking camera. I also have a Zeiss Ikon 9x12, but I think mine is a different model. Have you used yours yet? I haven't used mine as I have others I have been more inclined to use lately.