john neal
fallor ergo sum
Dralowid said:A 90XXX serial number puts the camera around 1932. I think I remember reading that was around the time they moved away from the 11 o'clock position, so it might be the original lens.
Michael,
I have a II body with a 8xxxx serial, probably from the same batch. I too think this is 1932, and my 11 o'clock Elmar has a serial that is pre-1933. From my research, the Elmar did not have a serial prior to 1932, when numbering started at 80000. Mine is in the 120xxx range and pre-1933, according to Leica records.
1933 was about when the 7 o'clock became the standard infinity lock position.
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reagan
hey, they're only Zorkis
Interesting info, William. Love the history tidbits. Thanx!
350D_user
B+W film devotee
Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
Grr Dave, you have a nice elmar on it now. Well, I guess mine had a summicron on it for a while (and mine's nice black) 
350D_user
B+W film devotee
Body colour is meaningless really, although I am a sucker for brassing and nickel fittings. 
LeicaTom
Watch that step!
Here's a shot of my very late production 1946 Leica IIIC "Half Race" bearing wartime stepped rewind platform bodied camera (from my avatar) with a same year date (coated) Elmar f3.5 50mm in a really nice Black case with that FISON hood......takes wonderful photos and also doubles as a great Retro prop for my models
*thats the beautiful Giana Bella* who's one of my Florida Muses
*thats the beautiful Giana Bella* who's one of my Florida Muses
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350D_user
B+W film devotee
JimG
dogzen
landsknechte
Well-known
JimG said:Still waiting for my IIf to return from Olig's Spa. Then my father's 1936 Leica III will go to daughter with the 2 duplicate lenses, now that she's decided she does want it.
*sigh*
Why did I have to come from an Instamatic family?
JimG
dogzen
landsknechte said:*sigh*
Why did I have to come from an Instamatic family?
Don't feel bad when I turned 16 my dad gave me his 1956 Stutabaker Champion flat six that ran on 4 cylinders on a good day.
Edit: OK, it's Studebaker not Stutabaker. Maybe he thought anyone who spelled as badly as I should not have any grandiose expectations about their future.
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colyn
ישו משיח
reagan
hey, they're only Zorkis
Nice, colyn. Very nice.

payasam
a.k.a. Mukul Dube
That looks faintly menacing, Colyn. Possibly the chrome R/F windows.
Charles Woodhouse
Collector,User,Repairer.
I bought a 1945 Half Race no.394455,from a bloke in England in January.The number I quoted is the frame number.The camera was such a mess that I decided to skeletonise it to show the internal workings (Schnitt or cut,the Germans call it), and fit it with red curtains like the earlier IIIc's. I had no regrets about cutting out the top of the mismatched top plate to show the workings of the rangefinder.
Anyway my point is that when I dismantled the camera I found it was one of those scarce unmarked 1945 Full Race cameras,and the only way of telling is to remove the top plate.
Anyway my point is that when I dismantled the camera I found it was one of those scarce unmarked 1945 Full Race cameras,and the only way of telling is to remove the top plate.
LeicaTom
Watch that step!
Charles Woodhouse said:I bought a 1945 Half Race no.394455,from a bloke in England in January.The number I quoted is the frame number.The camera was such a mess that I decided to skeletonise it to show the internal workings (Schnitt or cut,the Germans call it), and fit it with red curtains like the earlier IIIc's. I had no regrets about cutting out the top of the mismatched top plate to show the workings of the rangefinder.
Anyway my point is that when I dismantled the camera I found it was one of those scarce unmarked 1945 Full Race cameras,and the only way of telling is to remove the top plate.
Well, I just got some info`s from Germany on my"Half Race" camera.
I was just told my camera was from a special order for the US Army
delivered on February 13th 1946 cameras #397208-397519
(mine is in the beginning of the 200 series numbers)
another one #397278 was sold like 2 days ago in the UK for $500
The latest number I`ve ever seen is #397494 is was a modified camera with black paint
My camera will NEED a CLA very soon, I want to get some detailed photos of the camera once it`s been taken apart, it`s nearly mint - (but) the rewind knob is very tight and I`m sure there`s some film chips in the bottom of the camera etc.
I was always after a LATE rewind stepper camera, not really knowing that they too have an interesting history and a strange build story, now mine`s a little bit more special to me, it`s a beauty but I STILL love to use it, it`s not going to gather dust at all and after the CLA it will get used even more
Tom
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BronicaLee
Established
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
My Leica IIIa (1936/1937) with 5cm Elmar f/16 lens (1946)
This is my first original Leica after having owned and broken 3 escaped-from-tractor-factory ones.
I have had it for about 2 weeks now and in the process of running my first film through it (Adox CHS 100)
There's 9cm Elmar f/4 on the way for it, as well as a Vidom Viewfinder.
Body no. 229633
Lens no. 632526
Both are a little worse for wear, with the chrome getting thin here and there. But I wanted a camera to use, and not a collector's piece to store and cherish in a display case.
This is my first original Leica after having owned and broken 3 escaped-from-tractor-factory ones.
I have had it for about 2 weeks now and in the process of running my first film through it (Adox CHS 100)
There's 9cm Elmar f/4 on the way for it, as well as a Vidom Viewfinder.
Body no. 229633
Lens no. 632526
Both are a little worse for wear, with the chrome getting thin here and there. But I wanted a camera to use, and not a collector's piece to store and cherish in a display case.
payasam
a.k.a. Mukul Dube
A camera which looks used is always more to be trusted than one which appears to have spent its life sitting.
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