Shac
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I know there is at least one: Michael, our member Dralowid, has one. But you are right, I forgot to mention this model. The difference between III and IIIa however is extremely small.
Erik.
Many thanks Erik. I also saw todays thread on black IIa's by Dralowid
David
Erik van Straten
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Leica II with Elmar 35mm f/3.5, WEISU and FLQOO. And case.
Erik.
Erik.

p.giannakis
Pan Giannakis
Leica II with Elmar 35mm f/3.5, WEISO and FLQOO. And case.
Erik.
Oh wow, beautiful.
D
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Leica II with Elmar 35mm f/3.5, WEISO and FLQOO. And case.
Erik.
Erik, Your camera photos are always so beautifully lit, they almost look like Rembrandt paintings. Chapeau!
AlwaysOnAuto
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Erik van Straten
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Thank you, Pan and Deardorff38, I make those pictures with my scanner!
Erik.
Erik.
mauro scacco
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Erik, Your camera photos are always so beautifully lit, they almost look like Rembrandt paintings. Chapeau!
I see too dark, why?
Erik van Straten
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SimonPJ
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BP IIIf restored and painted by G. B. Metzcar for Paul-Henry van Hasbroeck
mauro scacco
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A strange camera, a leica ii black that has been converted by Leitz to leica iiif, has all the features (almost) but with the old charge knob without indicator of film sensitivity. It must be said that the camera is remarkable because very few have been made of iiif black, for the Swedish government iiif and iiig with special characteristics capable of supporting polar frost
http://www.wetzlar-historica-italia...9-dlefDWLIYNlaML0v4YsB7L_KdGB5e8ga1kKq2W4Co_g
s-l1600 (5) by Mauro Scacco, su Flickr
s-l1600 (4) by Mauro Scacco, su Flickr
http://www.wetzlar-historica-italia...9-dlefDWLIYNlaML0v4YsB7L_KdGB5e8ga1kKq2W4Co_g


Erik van Straten
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The original camera was indeed a Leica II (see the serial number) that was converted in the 1950's, so added were flash synch, strap lugs, slow speeds, a new body covering, a new top housing and a rangefinder diopter (a Leica III rangefinder in fact). Conversion of old cameras was a service by Leitz after the war when there was a great demand for cameras. There are many of them around.
The Leica IIIf was however a completely different camera based on the IIIc.
Erik.
The Leica IIIf was however a completely different camera based on the IIIc.
Erik.
Erik van Straten
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Leica IIIc black paint.

Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Leica switched from "DRP" to using "DBP" & "GMBH" in 1952, so a conversion done after that.
Might be that it was converted to a Leica III before that time, before it became this Leica IIIa-syn.
The conversion from a pre-war Leica to a IIIc/IIIf is not possible (or at least not cost-effective) due to the difference in the shutter crate design. It would mean swapping out too many parts. That's why the flash sync speeds on this one are still 1/20th of a second, instead of 1/30th of the true IIIc/f models.
Still a very interesting camera though
Might be that it was converted to a Leica III before that time, before it became this Leica IIIa-syn.
The conversion from a pre-war Leica to a IIIc/IIIf is not possible (or at least not cost-effective) due to the difference in the shutter crate design. It would mean swapping out too many parts. That's why the flash sync speeds on this one are still 1/20th of a second, instead of 1/30th of the true IIIc/f models.
Still a very interesting camera though
Erik van Straten
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Still a very interesting camera though![]()
For shooting I prefer a camera without flash synch; the synch often causes a malfunctioning shutter.
Erik.
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
The Contax IIa seems to suffer from that as well.
mauro scacco
Established
IIIa sync sure, not an f converted camera - not a common one's however, thx! Mauro
Dralowid
Michael
My understanding is that the factory conversions to IIIa syn etc did not include using a film advance knob with film speed indicator.
(Having said that I've got one)
(Having said that I've got one)
Erik van Straten
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My understanding is that the factory conversions to IIIa syn etc did not include using a film advance knob with film speed indicator.
(Having said that I've got one)
These came in the game with the IIIf, didn't they?
Erik.
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
These came in the game with the IIIf, didn't they?
Erik.
Yes, with the IIIf. They're of little value now though. The film speeds on it are all low, it doesn't even go up to 400, which is probably the most common film speed used today in 35mm. That made sense in the early 1950s, when films were all very slow.
Gerry M
Gerry
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