Rico
Well-known
Brassing? Looks like it encountered the business end of an orbital sander! 
john neal
fallor ergo sum
Wow! Bargain or what? I would love to have a Summar.
The brassing looks like some sort of chemical reaction - perhaps it was stood in a pool of vinegar for a few years?
A candidate for black paint, perhaps....
The brassing looks like some sort of chemical reaction - perhaps it was stood in a pool of vinegar for a few years?
A candidate for black paint, perhaps....
Peter_Jones
Well-known
I think it gives it "character"
btw , Trawlerman - yes, the old uncoated summar is useless, send it to me for safe disposal
Only joking, have a look around the forum for some excellent shots taken with uncoated lenses - there'll be plenty of life in the old dog yet give it a try - you might love it !
btw , Trawlerman - yes, the old uncoated summar is useless, send it to me for safe disposal
Only joking, have a look around the forum for some excellent shots taken with uncoated lenses - there'll be plenty of life in the old dog yet
give it a try - you might love it !Trawlerman
Member
Peter_Jones said:I think it gives it "character"
btw , Trawlerman - yes, the old uncoated summar is useless, send it to me for safe disposal
Only joking, have a look around the forum for some excellent shots taken with uncoated lenses - there'll be plenty of life in the old dog yet
Peter,
Thanks for the comments. I'll have a look around for pics from a Summar. If it's still ok I might give it a run out sometime.
For now i'm happy just to have a Leica even if it does look a bit a dilapidated.
GoodPhotos
Carpe lumen!
Seabadger said:
My apologies for not answering sooner. I've been PhotoShopping weddings.
Yes, as John Nicely pointed out, the RF filter helps provide contrast for faster focusing. You CAN put it on either RF window giving you either an orange patch in a clear field or a clear patch in an orange field (as I have it.)
I found mine on the IIIf that I have now, but bought it for use on my IIIc before I bought the IIIf. Paid about $10.
GoodPhotos
Carpe lumen!
raid said:
My Summarit is the greatest of classic Leitz glass as is my 9CM/4 Elmar!
I no longer have the M5 or the CV 25/4 that is mounted on it in that photo, though I may end up picking one of them OR the CV 21/4 again for wide use.
Seabadger
Newbie
GoodPhotos - thanks.
John - is DAG a member / dealer on this site? Apologies to both of you for what may be daft questions but I'm still very much finding my way both with this site and with LTM Leicas.
Trawlerman - from my limited experience, I wouldn't get rid of the Summar without giving it a fair chance. Having put a few rolls through my IIIf with a Summar, I'm certainly going to keep the lens. It's not up to anything like modern standard lens quality in almost every way, but it has something about it when used for B&W wide open or so.
John - is DAG a member / dealer on this site? Apologies to both of you for what may be daft questions but I'm still very much finding my way both with this site and with LTM Leicas.
Trawlerman - from my limited experience, I wouldn't get rid of the Summar without giving it a fair chance. Having put a few rolls through my IIIf with a Summar, I'm certainly going to keep the lens. It's not up to anything like modern standard lens quality in almost every way, but it has something about it when used for B&W wide open or so.
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john neal
fallor ergo sum
Seabadger,
I don't think DAG is a member here (bicbw), have a look at the DAG Camera website, on the LTM page here:
http://dagcamera.com/leica.htm
i have bought parts from Don and he does offer a really good service.
I don't think DAG is a member here (bicbw), have a look at the DAG Camera website, on the LTM page here:
http://dagcamera.com/leica.htm
i have bought parts from Don and he does offer a really good service.
LeicaTom
Watch that step!
Here`s my Leica IIIC K Grey that`s just arrived in the mail today, many thanks to the "Doctor" for the opportunity to acquire this amazing and very historical Leica, one of only 500 that was delivered to the US Army in May 1945
More about this camera and the history of it in a separate thread coming soon.....
More about this camera and the history of it in a separate thread coming soon.....
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migtex
Don't eXchange Freedom!
WOW! Bring the story on the Leica!
My humble Tower... the only reason I bought her was to use the Nikkor's LTM that I have.. turn out being much better than expected... surprise surprise!
My humble Tower... the only reason I bought her was to use the Nikkor's LTM that I have.. turn out being much better than expected... surprise surprise!
GoodPhotos
Carpe lumen!
LeicaTom said:
Does yours have "W.H." engraved on it?
I had a guy come into the shop I work at PT a month or so ago with a K that looked as nice as the one you've got there. Stupidly, I didn't get his contact information. he claims to have an offer in on an entire military issue kit for the K that he is thinking of buying and I didn't know where to send him for more info other than Stephen Gandy's short write up on the camera. I've since got all sorts of information for him and a few expert collectors who want to speak with him about this tidy bit of History. His is a "Wehrmacht Heer" version evidently because it is engraved "W.H." on the top plate. T
I REALLY wish I'd thought to get his contact information. I don't want his camera, (quite happy with a useable IIIf RD) I'm just really interested in the history of it.
murrayb53
Established
It would be interesting to know if the WH was original.
Keep in mind there are Russian and Polish counterfeit WH and HH (Heinrich Hoffman, Hitler's Photographer) copies available on eBay. Some of the fakes are really wacky and obviously fake while others are quite good. You can find a Fed 1 with Leica markings and the WH either engraved or screened in the proper place. Unless one is aware of all the original markings, serial numbers, and real Leica's to begin with, it would be easy to purchase a fake that was sold with a good war story for a few hundred bucks instead of paying the thousands the original would be worth.
One easy give away when trying to spot fake military Leica's is to note the shutter release. Real Leica's of that vintage did not have a cable release socket opening in the release. That type of "Leica" would be a Zorki body.
Steve
Keep in mind there are Russian and Polish counterfeit WH and HH (Heinrich Hoffman, Hitler's Photographer) copies available on eBay. Some of the fakes are really wacky and obviously fake while others are quite good. You can find a Fed 1 with Leica markings and the WH either engraved or screened in the proper place. Unless one is aware of all the original markings, serial numbers, and real Leica's to begin with, it would be easy to purchase a fake that was sold with a good war story for a few hundred bucks instead of paying the thousands the original would be worth.
One easy give away when trying to spot fake military Leica's is to note the shutter release. Real Leica's of that vintage did not have a cable release socket opening in the release. That type of "Leica" would be a Zorki body.
Steve
LeicaTom
Watch that step!
GoodPhotos said:
WOW! If he comes back to the SHOP get his infos for me, I would be very interested to help him out
No mine is a US Army issue camera, it was made during the last weeks of WW2 but NEVER delivered to the German Army, shortly after the surrender a US Army General took delivery of 500 of them, all Grey IIIC K cameras and they were given to various American Army officers in the ETO
LeicaTom
Watch that step!
murrayb53 said:
I`ve uncovered in the past two months (1) fake and (1) very modified and doubtful IIIC K on the ebay, it`s a good place to buy "normal" vintage Leitz equipment, but the rarer it gets the more suspect I am.....
One did sell RECENTLY there that was the REAL thing and a new owner got a great deal and paid a little less than $2,000 for it, it was also a US Army Issue camera as mine is
PS: as for Hoffman`s cameras....they were NEVER engraved as such, I knew of only ONE camera that was 100% positively his and that was a 1939 IIIB with a Mooly motor that they recovered original paperwork bearing his ownership on the camera, it was also *very well used*
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tooner
Newbie
My First Leica: 1932 Leica II(D)
My First Leica: 1932 Leica II(D)
Hello,
My first post here. Just joined today. I am returning to film photography after being away for forty years or so. I have just recently purchased my first Leica, a 1932 Leica II (D) SN 92605, lavoratory seat model, with what was said to be its original lens, a 5cm Elmar 1:3.5 with infinity at 11 o'clock, no SN on lens. If I figure this postng out, there will be a photo attached. Comments about whether the lens is likely original or not would be appreciated. I thought I should start where Leica started.
My previous stead - of years past - was a Canonflex that I bought in 1960. I still have it, with a very nice 100 mm 1:2 lens, great for portraiture, except for the *kerplunk* of the instant return reflex mirror. I am looking forward to a quieter and more gentle exposure signature.
Of the things I have learned so far, the most baffling is the LTM thread specification as M39 x 26 TPI. That pitch is close to 1.0 mm. How did that heppen, OB?
I am looking for a portrait lens, a short telephoto of 85 to 100mm focal length. Recommendations would be appreciated.
Lookin' Ahead,
RC in Vermont, USA, sunny and hot (95F = 35C) today for an unusual change
My First Leica: 1932 Leica II(D)
Hello,
My first post here. Just joined today. I am returning to film photography after being away for forty years or so. I have just recently purchased my first Leica, a 1932 Leica II (D) SN 92605, lavoratory seat model, with what was said to be its original lens, a 5cm Elmar 1:3.5 with infinity at 11 o'clock, no SN on lens. If I figure this postng out, there will be a photo attached. Comments about whether the lens is likely original or not would be appreciated. I thought I should start where Leica started.
My previous stead - of years past - was a Canonflex that I bought in 1960. I still have it, with a very nice 100 mm 1:2 lens, great for portraiture, except for the *kerplunk* of the instant return reflex mirror. I am looking forward to a quieter and more gentle exposure signature.
Of the things I have learned so far, the most baffling is the LTM thread specification as M39 x 26 TPI. That pitch is close to 1.0 mm. How did that heppen, OB?
I am looking for a portrait lens, a short telephoto of 85 to 100mm focal length. Recommendations would be appreciated.
Lookin' Ahead,
RC in Vermont, USA, sunny and hot (95F = 35C) today for an unusual change
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reagan
hey, they're only Zorkis
Congrats on the Barnack, tooner and welcome to RFF. Nice looking outfit. I use mostly wides, but I have an uncoated Elmar 9cm that I use rarely/occasionally. Works for me and they can usually be acquired at a very reasonable price.
payasam
a.k.a. Mukul Dube
Cary, I expect you mention the M adapter only in passing.
Tooner, with any lens other than a 50 mm, you'll need an accessory finder.
Tooner, with any lens other than a 50 mm, you'll need an accessory finder.
Dralowid
Michael
Hi Tooner,
At first I suspect that the 11 o'clock Elmar is a bit older than the camera but have no way to prove it. Some 11 o'clock lenses were modified from fixed versions.
A 90XXX serial number puts the camera around 1932. I think I remember reading that was around the time they moved away from the 11 o'clock position, so it might be the original lens.
So, maybe yes, maybe no.
So, you might say, why bother to write this post? The answer is that there are plenty of unknowns about Leica production and trying to find out more is a hobby of mine. Maybe someone who does know the date of introduction of the infinity lock will chip in.
Whatever, it's a great camera and lens.
Michael
At first I suspect that the 11 o'clock Elmar is a bit older than the camera but have no way to prove it. Some 11 o'clock lenses were modified from fixed versions.
A 90XXX serial number puts the camera around 1932. I think I remember reading that was around the time they moved away from the 11 o'clock position, so it might be the original lens.
So, maybe yes, maybe no.
So, you might say, why bother to write this post? The answer is that there are plenty of unknowns about Leica production and trying to find out more is a hobby of mine. Maybe someone who does know the date of introduction of the infinity lock will chip in.
Whatever, it's a great camera and lens.
Michael
mauro scacco
Established
My strange black LTM leica
My strange black LTM leica
My strange black LTM leica
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payasam
a.k.a. Mukul Dube
Mauro, what (second photo) is the pale blue thingummy near the shutter speed dial? Looks like a bit of glass or a reflection, but both are unlikely.