lam
Well-known
Just in use, I notice the S100 takes a bit to focus on some objects, the Sigma has it's share of clueless moments too; but if you concentrate on vertical edges first it really does a good job. Infact the focus system works great but the screen lags to show you the focused area, hah.
pan
Established
just got mine...
just got mine...
Hi,
Just got mine. My first impressions :
Slow for focus but good for portrait if people are posing.
Great and accurate colors and very sharp picture out of the camera.
Very light to wear
Battery makes 100-120 pictures
The sigma tool is not confortable especially when you know Lightroom.
here is one exemple that I posted on flickr :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alifeofsurprises/8007114535/sizes/o/in/photostream/
I recommend this camera. I hope to see one day a full-frame dslr using Foveon.
Cyril
just got mine...
Hi,
Just got mine. My first impressions :
Slow for focus but good for portrait if people are posing.
Great and accurate colors and very sharp picture out of the camera.
Very light to wear
Battery makes 100-120 pictures
The sigma tool is not confortable especially when you know Lightroom.
here is one exemple that I posted on flickr :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alifeofsurprises/8007114535/sizes/o/in/photostream/
I recommend this camera. I hope to see one day a full-frame dslr using Foveon.
Cyril
fstops
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Get this camera and a Tamrac zipshot tripod, go out and shoot as if you're shooting large format film.
This is not an action camera, it needs to be shot at low ISO, with prefocus or MF, and thus with a tripod. With MF you save on battery power as well.
The reason you can pretend its LF is due to the fact that at low ISO the files are so high resolution and sharp that you can upsample them to crazy levels before there is any loss of detail.
This is not an action camera, it needs to be shot at low ISO, with prefocus or MF, and thus with a tripod. With MF you save on battery power as well.
The reason you can pretend its LF is due to the fact that at low ISO the files are so high resolution and sharp that you can upsample them to crazy levels before there is any loss of detail.
Get this camera and a Tamrac zipshot tripod, go out and shoot as if you're shooting large format film.
This is not an action camera, it needs to be shot at low ISO, with prefocus or MF, and thus with a tripod. With MF you save on battery power as well.
The reason you can pretend its LF is due to the fact that at low ISO the files are so high resolution and sharp that you can upsample them to crazy levels before there is any loss of detail.
I have to agree fstops... treat it as a still life camera and you'll have the ability to make great photos in a small package.
rodt16s
Well-known
Looked on the Merrill flickr group, some very impressive results.
burancap
Veteran
fstops/jsrockit sum it up!
Use a tri or monopod and the selftimer.
The results are in the MF/LF league.
I am selling everything but a few sentimental pieces of kit.
GAS has been expelled.
Use a tri or monopod and the selftimer.
The results are in the MF/LF league.
I am selling everything but a few sentimental pieces of kit.
GAS has been expelled.
GaryLH
Veteran
fstops/jsrockit sum it up!
Use a tri or monopod and the selftimer.
The results are in the MF/LF league.
I am selling everything but a few sentimental pieces of kit.
GAS has been expelled.
This can be gas inducing... :bang:
Ok guys which Merrill did u get dp1m or dp2m?
Gary
If I do get one, I will get the DP2. Not many fixed lens 45mm cameras on the market these days. Unique in a way.
umcelinho
Marcelo
thinking here, a DP1M with the new 2.8 lens and an adapter to get a 21mm fov could be a pretty good ultrawide angle camera, i've been moving towards not fiddling with lens changing on the go and this might be a good solution for that. a 2.8 21mm M lens costs around $1300 with a viewfinder, it's what a DP1M with a wide converter for the LX3 would be.
has anyone already tried that with a DP1M? I've seen samples with a DP1, but the faster lens really makes it quite more interesting for me. maybe even another bigger sensor compact (less expensive)...
has anyone already tried that with a DP1M? I've seen samples with a DP1, but the faster lens really makes it quite more interesting for me. maybe even another bigger sensor compact (less expensive)...
Kent
Finally at home...
I'm really into this camera, but I'm just not sure I want to deal with its slowness.
That's what I thought when I had the chance to shoot with it at the Photokina. Great images, but it's sluggish.
GaryLH
Veteran
thinking here, a DP1M with the new 2.8 lens and an adapter to get a 21mm fov could be a pretty good ultrawide angle camera, i've been moving towards not fiddling with lens changing on the go and this might be a good solution for that. a 2.8 21mm M lens costs around $1300 with a viewfinder, it's what a DP1M with a wide converter for the LX3 would be.
has anyone already tried that with a DP1M? I've seen samples with a DP1, but the faster lens really makes it quite more interesting for me. maybe even another bigger sensor compact (less expensive)...
I am bit confused, sorry..
Dp1 or dp1m w/sigma wide angle converter or dp1m w/ the lx3 converter? A good quality wide converter would throw me toward the 28
Thanks
Gary
GaryLH
Veteran
That's what I thought when I had the chance to shoot with it at the Photokina. Great images, but it's sluggish.
How sluggish?... Slower than for example xp1 w/ fw1.0?
Thanks
Gary
burancap
Veteran
The more I use it, and get accustomed - the less sluggish it feels.
Keep in mind that the Merrill buffers, so there really is no lag in that department. The focus can hunt w/o stong verticals and/or contrast. That said, when set to manual (zone) focus, there is no issue. I have popped a few accidentals because of this.
After a month or so, my primary gripe remains the battery life and the lack of a VF, electronic or otherwise.
Keep in mind that the Merrill buffers, so there really is no lag in that department. The focus can hunt w/o stong verticals and/or contrast. That said, when set to manual (zone) focus, there is no issue. I have popped a few accidentals because of this.
After a month or so, my primary gripe remains the battery life and the lack of a VF, electronic or otherwise.
umcelinho
Marcelo
I am bit confused, sorry..
Dp1 or dp1m w/sigma wide angle converter or dp1m w/ the lx3 converter? A good quality wide converter would throw me toward the 28
Thanks
Gary
I've found some posts and photos with the DP1 using the LX3 wide adapter, turns the 28mm into a 22mm. I haven't found any info about a sigma wide converter, but the lx3 one seems to be the one that delivers the best results. there are other adapters that have a wider conversion, but maybe these distort or lower the IQ too much..
i really like shooting with a 12mm on my r-d1, which gets a 18mm field of view, thats why i also thought about the lx7, but from some comparision pics on high iso the small sensor performance really isnt very thrilling.
majid
Fazal Majid
I have an original DP1 and I used to have an original DP2, since sold. Loved the image quality, hated the slow AF. Replaced it successively with a Panasonic GF1 (meh), then a Leica X1 (good, but AF too slow, the X2 seems much better) and now a Fuji X100 (great). I'll probably get the DP2M if/when Lightroom support materializes, as using a camera with inadequate workflow is incredibly grating.
GaryLH
Veteran
I've found some posts and photos with the DP1 using the LX3 wide adapter, turns the 28mm into a 22mm. I haven't found any info about a sigma wide converter, but the lx3 one seems to be the one that delivers the best results. there are other adapters that have a wider conversion, but maybe these distort or lower the IQ too much..
i really like shooting with a 12mm on my r-d1, which gets a 18mm field of view, thats why i also thought about the lx7, but from some comparision pics on high iso the small sensor performance really isnt very thrilling.
Hmmm
Thanks for the clarification
Gary
btgc
Veteran
I don't get why Sigma DP doesn't have it's own subforum. Definitely worth it, with specific quirks and tricks. Not a typical P&S, if you ask me.
burancap
Veteran
I'll probably get the DP2M if/when Lightroom support materializes, as using a camera with inadequate workflow is incredibly grating.
That would be nice! My fingers are crossed that Adobe will "officially" pick the X3F format up! In the meantime -I ran the gamut trying for an X3F -> RAW converter/interpreter, etc...
Don't waste your time (unless someone knows of an attempt that I missed)!
At the end of tiresome searches, I came to the realization that the X3F files from the Merrill were pretty d@mn good w/o any interaction. Furthermore, the native SPP software, while no LR or PS, is simple and effective with the files. If they require any more post work than offered in SPP, I will export to TIFF and run them from there.
An important point regarding the new Merrills (and one I have not seen expressed elsewhere) is: Uncompressed, we are dealing with some pretty big files! 45-55mb and even larger once exported to TIFF. One thing (a BIG thing) that a potential Merrill adopter has to take into consideration is not just the workflow, but what is doing the workflow!
No sooner did my older G5 choke on the new files, than I ran out and actually purchased a new computer exclusively for my Sigma(s)!!! Frankly, it is what I consider a requirement, so if your infrastructure is more than a few years old, budget for upgrades in addition to the camera!
burancap
Veteran
Not a typical P&S, if you ask me.
That it is not.
It is on an island by itself. A strange, siren-encircled isle of allure!
d_ross
Registered User
OK so to answer my original question.
If you already use and like the Sigma DP camera's and are considering upgrading like I just have, then you will be used to, and accept, the negative aspects mentioned here and everywhere else about these cameras, all those things are true, but none really apply to the type of photographer this camera is made for, and all have been improved on this model.
Then you will love the Merrill
End of story
If you already use and like the Sigma DP camera's and are considering upgrading like I just have, then you will be used to, and accept, the negative aspects mentioned here and everywhere else about these cameras, all those things are true, but none really apply to the type of photographer this camera is made for, and all have been improved on this model.
Then you will love the Merrill
End of story
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