Signature of Leica 28/2-ASPH versus CV 28/1.9 Ultron

[Magus]

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[nico]

Ferider,
I'm thinking about a second lens (I have nok50) and the sthealty skopar 28 is gaining my interest, then, I must admit, your gallery makes my desire of buying it growing. Although I like shooting in low light conditions the ultron 28 seems to be a little bit too big, furthermore the nok50 is a great performer (for me) in dim light situations.
So, I'd rather buy a small lens for dayly use and the skopar 28 seems to me the better choise...
The only weird thing is that I never saw a used one for sale...so, I think I must be waiting for a long while before I can purchase one!
Bye
Nico

 

[egpj]

Here are some shotd from my 28 Summicron. Hopefully there will be enough examples for you to draw your own conclusions between the CV and the Summicron. Really everything that I have seen posted here does not sway me in either way. The CV had some perfectly acceptable results and the only way you could possibly tell the difference is to hold their respectived MTF charts up side by side.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=16089&cat=500&perpage=24&ppuser=2225

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=16189&cat=500&perpage=24&ppuser=2225

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=16088&cat=500&perpage=24&ppuser=2225

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=16090&cat=500&perpage=24&ppuser=2225

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=16101&cat=500&perpage=24&ppuser=2225

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=16190&cat=500&perpage=24&ppuser=2225

Just to show a few.

 

[Magus]

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[egpj]

Thnaks for the kind comments. The 35 you like is the most current ASPH version. Like this one allot as well. My favorite shot from this lens is-->

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=16130&cat=500&perpage=24&ppuser=2225

So many lenses, so little time.

 

[Magus]

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[nico]

Thanks Roland!
Bye.
N

 

[Flyfisher Tom]

Glenn,

Thanks for all your photo samples, some excellent shots 🙂

 

[StuartR]

Glenn and Todd have proven to me again that it is more the lens than the photographer. I had the 28 ultron, and I have several ASPH summicron and summilux lenses, and while they are more contrasty and sharper wide open, the Ultron never looked out of place beside them. I only sold it because I am not a big fan of the 28mm focal length. My advice would be to buy the Ultron if you don't use the 28mm focal length all the time, or if an extra 2600 dollars would make a real dent in your wallet. If you plan to use the 28mm focal length very frequently, with slide film, and wide open, then perhaps the 28 cron is right for you. If it were me, I would buy either the 25 biogon or the 35/1.4 ASPH and supplement it with the Ultron if you need it.

 

[egpj]

Dang, did I tick somebody off? I wasn't even trying.

 

[LeicaLux]

Summicron 28/2 asph

Summicron 28/2 asph

The Summicron 28/2 asph is the best performing wideangle lens available in the world for 35mm format. It has first class build quality - not requiring a ltm mount adapter and will be much more reliable.

This crap about 'no character' is absolutely crap!!!!

It is sharp across the whole frame wide open onwards. It is highly corrected for distortion and flare. Out of focus areas are smooth as they should be. Sure not as smooth as a 50mm lens, but that's due to depth of field associated with a wide angle, not quality of 'bokeh'.

I swapped my beloved 35/1.4 asph for this lens and never looked back. A perfect compliment to my 50/1.4 asph lens.

Don't get sucked into the over-hype pf this lens as it is expensive and the VC 29/1.9 is definately better value, but remember this does not mean it is better, it is not. The Leica 28/2 asph is the best, and the price says so!

 

[StuartR]

Dang, did I tick somebody off? I wasn't even trying.

I hope you don't think that I was ticked off Glenn! I think you gave very good advice and backed it up with good photos!

 

[egpj]

Glenn and Todd have proven to me again that it is more the lens than the photographer.

Sorry Stuart. The above comment without the ability to see body language and vocal tones can be interpreted in different ways. That's OK though guy. Nuttin but love. Ciao.

Glenn

 

[StuartR]

OMG, I am really sorry. I just realized I wrote that totally backwards! I meant to say that the PHOTOGRAPHER matters more than the lens! Sorry! My excuse is that it was near midnight Icelandic time.

 

[back alley]

OMG, I am really sorry. I just realized I wrote that totally backwards! I meant to say that the PHOTOGRAPHER matters more than the lens! Sorry! My excuse is that it was near midnight Icelandic time.

that's ok, under your avatar you talk about 6 hour TWIG light...🙂

 

[egpj]

It's all good in the Range Finder Forum hood. Magus is firm in his passion for the darkside. Now we just need to wait and see what he gets.

 

[Dougg]

My experience and opinion about the 35 cron asph makes me think twice before even considering the 28 cron, although i would like the extra stop. Because it is said to be even more contrasty. Like you ..... i can't judge lensperformance from a colorpicture .. because i do not shoot color nor have any interest to do so in the near future.

Hi Han... I poked around and found three rolls of B&W shot with the 28 'cron; a Pan-F, a Tri-X, and a Fuji Neopan 400CN chromogenic, this last shot with an orange filter, increasing contrast, and the only one of the three that's been scanned. Here are three shots from that roll, the first recognizably a B&W shot of the same empty storefront door as one color shot with the 28 Skopar, the second another view of that store, and the third a bit of bent sheetmetal discarded behind the auto body shop.

 

[LeicaLux]

Dougg, I am interested in what you think of Neopan 400CN....I am currently loving Acros at the moment for 100ISO, but need a 400 ISO equivelent. What are your thoughts?

 

[LeicaLux]

One way to sum up the Summicron 28/2 asph.....it is really no different in signature to the 35 lux asph "everyone" raves about....sharp and contrasty wide open without any Leica glow crap associated with older less sharp flareable lenses. I have NEVER seen a poor report for it from people who have used it....the only complaints you'll hear is the 'vignetting' at f/2, but what do you expect, it's f/2!?!

Hope this clears the whole 'signature' thing.

 

[ddcc]

The Summicron 28/2 asph is the best performing wideangle lens available in the world for 35mm format. It has first class build quality - not requiring a ltm mount adapter and will be much more reliable.

This crap about 'no character' is absolutely crap!!!!

It is sharp across the whole frame wide open onwards. It is highly corrected for distortion and flare. Out of focus areas are smooth as they should be. Sure not as smooth as a 50mm lens, but that's due to depth of field associated with a wide angle, not quality of 'bokeh'.

I swapped my beloved 35/1.4 asph for this lens and never looked back. A perfect compliment to my 50/1.4 asph lens.

Don't get sucked into the over-hype pf this lens as it is expensive and the VC 29/1.9 is definately better value, but remember this does not mean it is better, it is not. The Leica 28/2 asph is the best, and the price says so!

crap? what crap? there are many who enjoy older lenses, like I find the photos from 28mm Summaron more pleasing - sold the 28/2, kept the 28/5.6 instead. yeah, the 28/2 ASPH is a fine lense but how do you call it the best saying the price is the reason? that's crap. Canon 50/1 is more expensive than Leica Noct but I take the Noct anyday.