Silver is dead?

[emraphoto]

i do.

picture editors are going to go with who they want regardless of what they use.

 

[Neare]

Prove yourself. Create a name for yourself. Create a Niche market for yourself.

Anything is possible, Film only dies for the photographer who believes it is dying.

 

[Juan Valdenebro]

Pickett, I did it several times although I am not a famous photographer. Your personal history is your case only. Don't feel attacked when other people use film...

I think it depends not only on personal preferences, but on what you're able to get...

When Horst was shooting by eighty-two during the 80s, at one of his sessions he was asked which size of polas he needed to start, and he answered with a smile that he needed none because there was nothing a pola could tell him he wouldn't already know from his eyes...

Also, photography as a way to get some money is just a very narrow part of photography, and even if I have digital bodies and lenses for them, and even if I earn money that way, I prefer to shot film and earn money with film.

Keep cool, your opinion counts too.

Cheers,

Juan

 

[back alley]

i don't care if film lives or dies, my preference these days is digital.

it would be nice if the few folks on the planet (that would be us) who like rangefinders could keep the discussion civil and not try to annihilate each other with words.

for those who want and use film, fine...
for those who want and use digital, fine...
pretty simple really but human nature kicks in and WE WANT TO BE RIGHT AND MAKE THE OTHER GUY WRONG!
pretty stupid really.

 

[Pickett Wilson]

"Anything is possible, Film only dies for the photographer who believes it is dying."

I'm sure Kodak and Fujifilm wish that were so. 🙂

 

[mfogiel]

Digital printing, especially in colour is one thing, digital printing in B&W is another and the same is true of shooting. If I can easily agree that colour film and printing processes are redundant, I doubt this is already true today ( not in 2002) for B&W printing, and it is certainly not true for B&W image acquisition. I am willing to change my mind, as I have no vested interest in film, if someone shows me a print that would prove it. I keep on looking, but have not seen one yet. That master printer's statement must have been less generic, or he drunk a lot that day.

 

[Lilserenity]

Life's too short, just do your thing, whatever it might be, and may it bring a smile to your face when you're done.

 

[emraphoto]

"Anything is possible, Film only dies for the photographer who believes it is dying."

I'm sure Kodak and Fujifilm wish that were so. 🙂

come now Jim, you're a smart fella. neither of those companies bets their future on a single product.

people will continue to shoot film and folks will continue to make it. can we move on.

 

[Fujitsu]

with the 35mm and roll film cameras that I used to use, in general, clearly outperform their film counterparts.

Yes, thats an engineers view on photography. "Performance" never made a great picture. There´s much more soul in my analog photographs than in any digital capture (and this holds true for most stuff I see on flickr).

I dont care about "performance". Film looks better and I mean not in a countable way.

 

[back alley]

this 'soul' business baffles me.

film has soul digital does not?

what romantic clap trap.

 

[Juan Valdenebro]

back alley, you've been the only one around here saying "stupid" and "annihilate".

We all tolerate more than you are pretending...

Besides that, being critic and offensive to a group without using particular names of people you refer to, is not the best way to keep things kool, and you're a mod!

Cheers,

Juan

 

[skibeerr]

Oil painting, drawing, are not dead yet.

I think the impact of digital is greater on the future of the pro. photographer rather than on the future, use and production, of BW film.

 

[back alley]

back alley, you've been the only one around here saying "stupid" and "annihilate".

We all tolerate more than you are pretending...

Besides that, being critic and offensive to a group without using particular names of people you refer to, is not the best way to keep things kool, and you're a mod!

Cheers,

Juan

yes, i'm a mod but a member also. i didn't give up my right to offer an opinion as well.

 

[Pickett Wilson]

The question of the thread asked if silver was dead. It seemed like the OP courted responses from both sides of the debate.

But, the dead horse is pretty unrecognizable now, so we can get back to debating whether Gordy straps work as well as Luigi straps! 😉

 

[Juan Valdenebro]

yes, i'm a mod but a member also. i didn't give up my right to offer an opinion as well.

We all appreciate you as a great mod and also as a constant posting member...

It just looks as if sometimes digital people are less tolerant than film people: we don't care at all if people use digital: we do it sometimes but don't consider it the best possible way.

Cheers,

Juan

 

[Pickett Wilson]

The whole soul thing opens up another can of worms, so to speak. Do the dead animals from whom the gelatin was rendered have souls? If so, perhaps their souls are captured in the emulsion of every roll we shoot. In which case, film could truly have soul.

 

[emraphoto]

The whole soul thing opens up another can of worms, so to speak. Do the dead animals from whom the gelatin was rendered have souls? If so, perhaps their souls are captured in the emulsion of every roll we shoot. In which case, film could truly have soul.

i think it is easily figured that the poster was trying to vocalize (or type) a certain depth or emotional response they felt when working with and viewing film images. is there a word that would have been more apropos?

 

[Juan Valdenebro]

Now aggression comes again to faith and religion fields, amazing.

 

[back alley]

We all appreciate you as a great mod and also as a constant posting member...

It just looks as if sometimes digital people are less tolerant than film people: we don't care at all if people use digital: we do it sometimes but don't consider it the best possible way.

Cheers,

Juan

emotions can be a deadly thing...what i see is the opposite of what you are saying, i see that film folks are less tolerant and more judgemental about digital shooters, that digital is soulless (kinda making me soulless as well?) and that film is the only acceptable medium of an artist.
why i get involved in these discussions amazes me as i always seem to get all worked up.

i think i'll go re-arrange my camera bag...

 

[Juan Valdenebro]

To make my opinion clear, I see no more artistic merits in any of both ways.

Some of us just feel more pleasure with one of them, that's all.

Even printing or capture quality are both irrelevant when an image is moving.

Cheers,

Juan