Black
Photographer.
For clarity, even though Polaroid Originals "evolved" from Impossible, or The Impossible Project, or Polapremium, they are two very different entities now. Is suspect the reason for that is the involvement of PO's now CEO Oskar Smolokowski.
The reason why Florian states "they" bought the factory is because its true. At the time of its inception, Florian was the rudder for The Impossible Project. Once it was established, he left, then co-founding Supersense, who are in no way affiliated with PO.
Black
Photographer.
And on a side note, I think the prototype image looks beautiful.
DominikDUK
Well-known
Sorry maybe I am confused but the only factory they are talking about on the Kickstarter website is the small "factory" they bought or rented in Vienna, not the polaroid or fuji or some other factory.
B-9
Devin Bro
^^ that is what I thought as well... a small back wood industrial space. It sure looks like a interesting space to occupy.
Pioneer
Veteran
If Supersense had plans to use this as a start to begin producing actual pack film that would be one thing. But they are VERY clear that they have no intention of producing pack film the way we remember it. Instead they want to produce some hand-created one shot film packages that will work with the old pack film cameras.
I really don't see that this makes any sense for me. This will cost me $11 per shot, assuming I get the film at all since there is actually no guarantee that this will happen on kickstarter.
If I were really interested in making instant analog color pictures I would pick up a Fuji Instax and use their Instax film. That I can do for less than $! USD per picture.
I love backing lost causes and have been involved in a number of past kickstarter projects. But this is a little too much even for me.
I think that this little paragraph from their kickstarter page says it all for me: "Beyond doubt, the unique selling points of the glory past are all gone: digital is much more instant, much more convenient, much more almost everything compared to the analog ancestor and, on top of that, it's for free."
Good luck, I hope you all enjoy the ride.
I really don't see that this makes any sense for me. This will cost me $11 per shot, assuming I get the film at all since there is actually no guarantee that this will happen on kickstarter.
If I were really interested in making instant analog color pictures I would pick up a Fuji Instax and use their Instax film. That I can do for less than $! USD per picture.
I love backing lost causes and have been involved in a number of past kickstarter projects. But this is a little too much even for me.
I think that this little paragraph from their kickstarter page says it all for me: "Beyond doubt, the unique selling points of the glory past are all gone: digital is much more instant, much more convenient, much more almost everything compared to the analog ancestor and, on top of that, it's for free."
Good luck, I hope you all enjoy the ride.
v0sh
Established
You realize that's contradicting?
Once it was shortly before failing he left. He even states at the kickstarter that "THEY" failed, clearly referring to Impossible (also see screenshot below).
Again, the link: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755997589/one-instant-analog-packfilm-re-invented/description
and, for your convenience, a screenshot:
aizan
Veteran
They’re just cannibalizing P7 pods, so my main concern right now is whether this is just a one off, or if they will be able to make more reagent in the future. What are their medium or long term plans?
Godfrey
somewhat colored
The fact that it is hideously expensive is not relevant.
The question of whether SuperSense can manage a sustained production of this stuff is also not relevant.
The question that it might or might not even come close to what Fuji and Polaroid products of the present or past are/were is also not relevant.
The only thing to question yourself about is whether or not you feel there's sufficient merit in the attempt to bring this now long dead film format back into existence, even if only for a couple of exposures, and whether you'll enjoy using that brief moment enough to be worth the cost.
On any technological scale of relevance, NONE of stuff is worth a dime from the point of usability, capability, and performance compared to even the cheapest digital camera now on the market. Very little of the instant film now available (Fujifilm Instax in all its different formats, Polaroid Originals nee Impossible Project SX-70, 600, Spectra, or 8x10, etc etc) has much to recommend it other than its unique imaging qualities—both good AND bad—and the marvel of the camera design, chemistry and manufacturing of film, of a bygone era that it represents.
I am shooting a lot of instant film lately ... both PO and Instax formats ... and it remains curiously attractive, ridiculously expensive, and an ongoing marvel at the genius of Dr. Edwin H. Land and his team of engineers, and the hard work of marketers, engineers, and visionaries of the present day who work hard to recreate it. I offer my money to projects like this, when I can afford to, simply to honor what all those decades of brilliant work by wonderfully crazy people bring to enrich the world.
I haven't decided quite yet whether to back this Supersense project, but I likely will. Purely for the joy of helping to advance creativity and passion for ridiculous and impossible things.
I'll go for my bicycle ride now, and my InstaKon RF70 will be with me.
G
MiNT InstaKon RF70 + Fujifilm Instax Wide Monochrom
The question of whether SuperSense can manage a sustained production of this stuff is also not relevant.
The question that it might or might not even come close to what Fuji and Polaroid products of the present or past are/were is also not relevant.
The only thing to question yourself about is whether or not you feel there's sufficient merit in the attempt to bring this now long dead film format back into existence, even if only for a couple of exposures, and whether you'll enjoy using that brief moment enough to be worth the cost.
On any technological scale of relevance, NONE of stuff is worth a dime from the point of usability, capability, and performance compared to even the cheapest digital camera now on the market. Very little of the instant film now available (Fujifilm Instax in all its different formats, Polaroid Originals nee Impossible Project SX-70, 600, Spectra, or 8x10, etc etc) has much to recommend it other than its unique imaging qualities—both good AND bad—and the marvel of the camera design, chemistry and manufacturing of film, of a bygone era that it represents.
I am shooting a lot of instant film lately ... both PO and Instax formats ... and it remains curiously attractive, ridiculously expensive, and an ongoing marvel at the genius of Dr. Edwin H. Land and his team of engineers, and the hard work of marketers, engineers, and visionaries of the present day who work hard to recreate it. I offer my money to projects like this, when I can afford to, simply to honor what all those decades of brilliant work by wonderfully crazy people bring to enrich the world.
I haven't decided quite yet whether to back this Supersense project, but I likely will. Purely for the joy of helping to advance creativity and passion for ridiculous and impossible things.
I'll go for my bicycle ride now, and my InstaKon RF70 will be with me.
G
MiNT InstaKon RF70 + Fujifilm Instax Wide Monochrom
jawarden
Well-known
Sounds like what Kickstarter was invented for. I'm not supporting this effort with money but I hope they succeed.
Kai-san
Filmwaster
In their first project update they have clearly stated that this is just the first phase in developing a new pack film. The P7 material from Polaroid will not last for long and they already have plans for the next phase.
Anyway, nobody is forcing you to participate. I have chosen to join up not so much for the reward, but because I'd like to support the effort to develop a new pack film. I spent a lot of money on the first horrible looking integral films from Impossible too, and because a lot of mad people did likewise we now have beautiful films for our SX-70 and 600 cameras. And maybe it's the same mad people joining up now because they reached half their goal in the first 24 hours.
Anyway, nobody is forcing you to participate. I have chosen to join up not so much for the reward, but because I'd like to support the effort to develop a new pack film. I spent a lot of money on the first horrible looking integral films from Impossible too, and because a lot of mad people did likewise we now have beautiful films for our SX-70 and 600 cameras. And maybe it's the same mad people joining up now because they reached half their goal in the first 24 hours.
Jamie123
Veteran
I think what's confusing you is that "they" are at times using the pronoun "we" referring to the legal entity that is Supersense and at other times they mean "we" as in the actual people involved.
Might not be super precise but so what? What's the point of these semantics? Clearly it's not a scam and most likely they will deliver on the product that they're promising. Is it a desirable product? I don't think so personally but neither did I think the Impossible Project films were or are. It's just not for me so I won't be buying or backing it.
And as for them using Kickstarter, I don't see what the big deal is. The Impossible Project would've probably used it, too, if it had been around when they started.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Anyone who can contemplate paying $11 per shot lives in a very different world to me!
Red Rock Bill
Well-known
I have 40 packs each of color and b/w Fuji...but what the heck ....I signed on .....Bill
Godfrey
somewhat colored
In for a penny, in for a pound: Because I like backing crazy projects, I went in for the starter kit that includes three six packs and a camera. If that happens, and it's the last of it, I'll take my time making my last eighteen exposures with pack film as an honorarium to Dr. Land, $20 at a time.
G
"Only the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do."
G
"Only the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do."
