vanyagor
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Unfortunately my first Kiev came without the take-up spool. Can someone recommend where I can get one? Which ones would fit? I guess the ones from fed or Zorki do not work, right?
Take up spool for Kiev 4a
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peterc
Heretic
Use one from an empty film cassette. You will likely have to shave a bit off, but it will work.
Peter
Peter
vanyagor
Established
Nice idea, I did not think about that! Thanks Peter!peterc said:
peterc
Heretic
You're welcome. The way to get a really good takeup spool is to locate a Contax reloadable cassette and scavange the spool from it.vanyagor said:
Peter
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rick oleson
Guest
a regular 35mm can spool makes a loose fit, since the chamber was designed to hold the entire can. a fellow sent me a good DIY solution, which i have posted here: http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/kievspool.jpg
.... but more recently i've taken to an even simpler route, just gluing the can end onto the spool flange with epoxy.
.... but more recently i've taken to an even simpler route, just gluing the can end onto the spool flange with epoxy.
Xmas
Veteran
Ivan
Either Rick's posted solution above or a pukka Kiev spool are faster handling than a reloadable cassette inner. Unless the inner has both a centre slot cut out and a hook slot some do, e.g. some of the contax origionals, had both to allow the option of faster cassette to cassette loading.
Noel
Either Rick's posted solution above or a pukka Kiev spool are faster handling than a reloadable cassette inner. Unless the inner has both a centre slot cut out and a hook slot some do, e.g. some of the contax origionals, had both to allow the option of faster cassette to cassette loading.
Noel
mike goldberg
The Peaceful Pacific
Hi rick & all,
The DIAGRAM in rick's post is great, but the TEXT is illegible.
Any chance of a few lines of How To?
Thanks, mike 🙂
The DIAGRAM in rick's post is great, but the TEXT is illegible.
Any chance of a few lines of How To?
Thanks, mike 🙂
Xmas
Veteran
Mike
If you have a fine metal pad saw there are two options:
- start with Ilford spool from 3 hour lab, increase size of central slot so thet normal leader will slot in, friction will hold film in place. The cut needs to go to bottom of spool but not cut into film locating flanges of spool. See photos of kiev spools on e-bay for clue, note some are two slot, 2nd slot is unnecessary especially in cold weather. (remove small bits of plastic carefully, steal partners nail file...
- same spool but cut into spool to leave a curved slot 3/8 to1/2 inch deep ending at base of spool (as above), the curve has to capture the bottom part of leader by friction.
The second cut does not need a pad saw any fine tooth metal saw will do. If the spool is a Kodak or Fuji spool it should still work. The mini-lab will give you a bag of spools to experimant with if you explain the problem, and how you are going to need lots of film processed, and they are your local mini lab.
The only problem is the Kiev spool or similar Contax spool will have a narrow diameter pick up for the Kiev baseplate pin, the DIN standard spool dont have this location but it should still work. If you get irregular spacing it is probably the kievs fault not the spool nor the robot slide mounter nor the robot print cutters... Rick glues on a locator which may help but the problem is probably your kiev...
Sorry if my English is not easy...
Noel
If you have a fine metal pad saw there are two options:
- start with Ilford spool from 3 hour lab, increase size of central slot so thet normal leader will slot in, friction will hold film in place. The cut needs to go to bottom of spool but not cut into film locating flanges of spool. See photos of kiev spools on e-bay for clue, note some are two slot, 2nd slot is unnecessary especially in cold weather. (remove small bits of plastic carefully, steal partners nail file...
- same spool but cut into spool to leave a curved slot 3/8 to1/2 inch deep ending at base of spool (as above), the curve has to capture the bottom part of leader by friction.
The second cut does not need a pad saw any fine tooth metal saw will do. If the spool is a Kodak or Fuji spool it should still work. The mini-lab will give you a bag of spools to experimant with if you explain the problem, and how you are going to need lots of film processed, and they are your local mini lab.
The only problem is the Kiev spool or similar Contax spool will have a narrow diameter pick up for the Kiev baseplate pin, the DIN standard spool dont have this location but it should still work. If you get irregular spacing it is probably the kievs fault not the spool nor the robot slide mounter nor the robot print cutters... Rick glues on a locator which may help but the problem is probably your kiev...
Sorry if my English is not easy...
Noel
colyn
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vanyagor said:
Alex-photo on **bay sells original Kiev spools..
Xmas
Veteran
Colyn
I have arranged that the postal service is especially slow so you need a pad saw if you want a spool by Xmas (or FoL, Hannaka or whatever) you call my festival.
Noel
I have arranged that the postal service is especially slow so you need a pad saw if you want a spool by Xmas (or FoL, Hannaka or whatever) you call my festival.
Noel
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
make a spool from a film cassette spool that has the centre piece with no opening like from an Efke cassette or an old Konica film cassette.
hold spool end in a vise.
cut diagnally down from the mid half of the spool to just touching the centre of the lower flange , I just use a hacksaw with a fine blade for this.
Crazy glue the seperate metal cassette end to the end of the lower flange,
choose a cassette end that is not too deformed.
that it, use the diagnall cut to place your film leader in when you are loading your Kiev rf camera.
hold spool end in a vise.
cut diagnally down from the mid half of the spool to just touching the centre of the lower flange , I just use a hacksaw with a fine blade for this.
Crazy glue the seperate metal cassette end to the end of the lower flange,
choose a cassette end that is not too deformed.
that it, use the diagnall cut to place your film leader in when you are loading your Kiev rf camera.
arbib
Well-known
colyn said:
LINK TO ALEX EBAY Take Up Spool for KIEV RF
I bought one. It has a double slot that is 3/4 of the length. the Cut Leader of any Commercial film will slide right in..No problem.
