peterm1
Veteran
What are the characteristics and rendering of Sonnar lenses?
It's what you see in that image. I do not know how to explain it exactly but will give it a shot. To my way of thinking there can be (of course it is not always present as you cannot control for all factors and variables) a certain "smoothness" in gradation that I like. And if you look at the image in question, the shadow areas provide nice variations in lightness and dark without any hint of harshness.
Sonnars can also display a characteristic I have read about in old magazines from the 1950s where the image is described as being sharp but having a certain softness in the rendering (which I think has to do with the way Sonnars can depict transitions from one tone to another as mentioned above). These features may be more apparent when the lens is shot open or fairly open. More modern lens designs tend to err towards being almost excessively or clinically sharp. But I like "character" lenses which add a certain something to images. We have lost that to some extent with modern highly corrected computer designed lenses which have removed some of the critical residual aberrations upon which those characteristics rely.
This color image of my cat was shot with a Sonnar and I think it displays (some of) the kind of tonal qualities I am talking of.

rhl-oregon
Cameras Guitars Wonders
Here are a few examples of what I look for the modern 50/1.5 ZM to deliver: wide open, sharp focus point, then a dissolve — more or less sudden or gradual depending on how tightly I frame the subject, and whether it faces forward or is in profile.
A7 1/250 @f1.5 iso 50
M5 1/250 @1.5 iso 250 (Arista Premium 400)
A7 1/250 @f1.5 iso 50

M5 1/250 @1.5 iso 250 (Arista Premium 400)

rhl-oregon
Cameras Guitars Wonders
Same cameras and similar exposures, landscape shots:
A7
Hexar RF
A7

Hexar RF

Bingley
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Bingley
Veteran
To me, the beauty of Sonnars is the rapid change from sharpness to a soft background.
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Sony A7S FE Sonnar 55/1.8
John Mc
I agree, and your photo is a very good example of Sonnar goodness.
Bingley
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mcfingon
Western Australia
Great to see you and others here using and enjoying your Sonnars too, Steve.
John Mc
John Mc
DwF
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50mm C Sonnar f 1.5
kimmo7
Newbie
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 5cm 1.5 T
wall by kimmolandia, on Flickr
Jupiter 8 with Panasonic GF1
9 by kimmolandia, on Flickr

Jupiter 8 with Panasonic GF1

LukeBanks
Established
dourbalistar
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Sony NEX-5T, Nikkor-H.C 5cm f/2, Voigtlander VM-E close focus adapter, processed with VSCOcam using the HB1 filter.

2016-03-30 11.41.18 1 by dourbalistar, on Flickr

2016-03-30 11.41.18 1 by dourbalistar, on Flickr
p.giannakis
Pan Giannakis
Taken with a Rollei XF35 (Sonnar 40 f/2.3)

philosomatographer
Well-known
Zeiss Sonnar 250mm f/5.6 for Linhof (4x5)
Zeiss Sonnar 250mm f/5.6 for Linhof (4x5)
Made with the largest (and possibly rarest) Sonnar of them all:
The 250mm f/5.6 Zeiss Sonnar on a Linhof Technika V:
I was incredibly lucky to get this lens after an estate sale. After using it for more than a year, and the "new shiny" factor has worn off, it's still the most amazing lens for large format that I've ever used.
In the enlarger (grain focuser) I can see that, shot wide open (as all the above are) it resolves down to individual grains on Ilford FP4. The only other lens I've seen that comes close is a Rodenstock APO Sironar-S, but I think the Sonna is slightly better.
Oh, and just to throw another Sonnar in here - the 50mm f/1.5 C-Sonnar on a Leica M3, and Kodak TMY2-400:
Zeiss Sonnar 250mm f/5.6 for Linhof (4x5)
Made with the largest (and possibly rarest) Sonnar of them all:
The 250mm f/5.6 Zeiss Sonnar on a Linhof Technika V:



I was incredibly lucky to get this lens after an estate sale. After using it for more than a year, and the "new shiny" factor has worn off, it's still the most amazing lens for large format that I've ever used.
In the enlarger (grain focuser) I can see that, shot wide open (as all the above are) it resolves down to individual grains on Ilford FP4. The only other lens I've seen that comes close is a Rodenstock APO Sironar-S, but I think the Sonna is slightly better.
Oh, and just to throw another Sonnar in here - the 50mm f/1.5 C-Sonnar on a Leica M3, and Kodak TMY2-400:

philosomatographer
Well-known
I absolutely love photographs with this feel - perfect!
P.S. Is it not a f/2.8 lens? (You said f/2.3 - a typo?)
P.S. Is it not a f/2.8 lens? (You said f/2.3 - a typo?)
Taken with a Rollei XF35 (Sonnar 40 f/2.3)
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p.giannakis
Pan Giannakis
I absolutely love photographs with this feel - perfect!
P.S. Is it not a f/2.8 lens? (You said f/2.3 - a typo?)
The Rollei XF35 has a sonnar 40 f2.3. from what people say online, the f2.8 was as better one.
jamin-b
Well-known
Enjoying playing with my Nikkor H.C. 5cm F2 on my newly acquired Fuji X-T10. Between the close focusing capability of this lens + the leica M adapter's additional close focusing feature, there are some interesting opportunities for macro shots...
FUJI0934 by Ben Sandler, on Flickr
And portraiture...
FUJI0984 by Ben Sandler, on Flickr

And portraiture...

dourbalistar
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Leica M5, Nikkor-P.C 8.5cm f/2 LTM, Ilford HP5+, developed in LegacyPro L110 at 1:31 for 5.5 minutes.

2018.03.17 Roll #148-02144-positive.jpg by dourbalistar, on Flickr

2018.03.17 Roll #148-02144-positive.jpg by dourbalistar, on Flickr
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