jcrutcher
Veteran
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
I have found that, about 9 out of 10, the liking of Bokeh is proportional to the quality of their eye.
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Todd.Hanz
Guest
it's time to put my foot down, I like bokeh and lots of it 
Todd




Todd
Jack Conrad
Well-known
Bokeh kills!
That's right, for every bokeh, some little detail had to die.
So please, for the sake of all the little details,
"JUST SAY NO WAY TO BOKEH."
That's right, for every bokeh, some little detail had to die.
So please, for the sake of all the little details,
"JUST SAY NO WAY TO BOKEH."

Jack Conrad
Well-known
Please join me, brothers and sisters, in a unified stand against Bokeh and the harm its done to all the poor little details.
Please join APAB(angry photographers against bokeh) today.
Together we have a fighting chance to beat this scourge on society. We can and we must put bokeh behind bars, behind fences and in the background once again.
Please join APAB(angry photographers against bokeh) today.
Together we have a fighting chance to beat this scourge on society. We can and we must put bokeh behind bars, behind fences and in the background once again.

Jack Conrad
Well-known
Don't be a blurry fuzzy bokeh boy. Sharpen up.
If God hadn't wanted you to shoot sharp, he wouldn't have given lenses aperture blades.
If God hadn't wanted you to shoot sharp, he wouldn't have given lenses aperture blades.

Muggins
Junk magnet
I'm speaking as someone who normally runs a mile when the B-word comes out (I think there is one picture on my Flickr where I mention it, and that's because a Trip 35 stopped down gives hilarious bad bokeh).
However, I'm rather enjoying this thread. I can't say that I'm converted, I'm not going to rush out and buy a lens as a result (though a few of Brian's wide open shots are pretty damn lovely), but it's mostly quite good fun. There are not too many heads stuck where they really shouldn't be yet.
I'm a little concerned about people buying lenses specifically for cat photographs, though. I can't quite imagine that. Are you sure that the euphemism being used really meant cat? I can just about see at a pinch that that might be a reason to buy a lens (though it might be a better reason just to buy a seperate memory card!).
Adrian
However, I'm rather enjoying this thread. I can't say that I'm converted, I'm not going to rush out and buy a lens as a result (though a few of Brian's wide open shots are pretty damn lovely), but it's mostly quite good fun. There are not too many heads stuck where they really shouldn't be yet.
I'm a little concerned about people buying lenses specifically for cat photographs, though. I can't quite imagine that. Are you sure that the euphemism being used really meant cat? I can just about see at a pinch that that might be a reason to buy a lens (though it might be a better reason just to buy a seperate memory card!).
Adrian
jippiejee
Well-known
and of course, it turns into another bokeh freak thread... hahaha.
dnk512
Well-known
Some people like duck a l'orange (i.e. bokeh), others like macaroni and cheese (i.e. "sharpness")
Going on and on about how duck a l'orange isn't like macaroni and cheese shows more lack of understanding about duck a l'orange than about understanding macaroni and cheese. I believe you just have either when you feel like it.
Just sayin'
hmm.... I go with the mashed potatoes and gravy. One needs both to be good for a successful meal. Each can be evaluated on its own merit, and one can have several successful flavors, but only when all parts *work/fit-together* one has pleasing results.
(P.S. I do not eat gravy, but I thought most folks will like the analogy --- perhaps think popcorn and butter)
dnk512
Well-known
Please join me, brothers and sisters, in a unified stand against Bokeh and the harm its done to all the poor little details.
Please join APAB(angry photographers against bokeh) today.
Together we have a fighting chance to beat this scourge on society. We can and we must put bokeh behind bars, behind fences and in the background once again.
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Funny! And good luck with this one... not all images work well with everything in focus. Several examples already posted here. But, APAB is a funny one!
ferider
Veteran
Why do these threads always show either infinite or 1cm DOF ?
The real treats are in between
... like this:
Enough details for context, nice 3d rendering of subject. Wouldn't be the same at f8 or above ....
The real treats are in between



Enough details for context, nice 3d rendering of subject. Wouldn't be the same at f8 or above ....
dreilly
Chillin' in Geneva
You are either bokeh or against us.
CK Dexter Haven
Well-known
shooting a picture to produce MAXIMUM BOKEH : probably not very good
having bokeh in a picture incidentally : probably alright
having a gentle, graduated transition to OoF : potentially amazing
How does this work? You decide, when looking at photography, whether or not the photographer had enough light to use a smaller aperture? That's how you assess whether the intent was to "produce maximum bokeh" versus grabbing enough light to eliminate shake?
"bokeh in a picture incidentally?" So, your assessment also factors in what focal length was used?
In my mind, all of these 'rules' are ridiculous. A picture works (for you) or it doesn't. Some people can make great photographs using "maximum bokeh" and some people can't. Some people can do it well most of the time, and some only some of the time. I don't get the point of EVER saying "bokeh isn't important." It obviously is — but just like 'sharpness' — how important depends on the individual image.
If you only look at Ansel Adams-ish landscapes, the frequency with which you notice bokeh will be... infrequent. But, should you accidentally encounter a Peter Lindbergh photograph, don't you have to react to the context? Anyone with only one set of rules to apply to all situations is a sad and frightening person.
Please join me, brothers and sisters, in a unified stand against Bokeh and the harm its done to all the poor little details.
Please join APAB(angry photographers against bokeh) today.
Together we have a fighting chance to beat this scourge on society. We can and we must put bokeh behind bars, behind fences and in the background once again.![]()
Jack, Jack, Jack.
What did you think would happen to those two Sonnars that you sold to me?
The Carl Zeiss 50/1.5, wide-open on an Amedeo Adapter. New front element.

and yes, that Uncoated Carl Zeiss Jena 5cm f1.5....

Sonnars. Ahhhh.
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gilpen123
Gil
Is a high end P&S more suited for this :angel:
Please join me, brothers and sisters, in a unified stand against Bokeh and the harm its done to all the poor little details.
Please join APAB(angry photographers against bokeh) today.
Together we have a fighting chance to beat this scourge on society. We can and we must put bokeh behind bars, behind fences and in the background once again.
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Roger Hicks
Veteran
hmm.... I go with the mashed potatoes and gravy. One needs both to be good for a successful meal. Each can be evaluated on its own merit, and one can have several successful flavors, but only when all parts *work/fit-together* one has pleasing results.
(P.S. I do not eat gravy, but I thought most folks will like the analogy --- perhaps think popcorn and butter)
Isn't this the point? That there are some things so disgusting that no sane person goes out of their way to look for them? Or that at most, they put up with them when they have to?
Cheers,
R.
No one mentioned anything about having to be sane.
Look at how much time people around here spend on the Internet.
Look at how much time people around here spend on the Internet.
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