ray*j*gun
Veteran
We have wealth of options and quality why complain? My D90 works just as well now as it did before. And its only a mere Dx.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Odd one out: I'm gonna get me a D300 once everybody has jumped the bandwagon.
Ain't nothing wrong with that brilliant 'lowly' D300 in my book...
Ain't nothing wrong with that brilliant 'lowly' D300 in my book...
boomguy57
Well-known
I have to say that the high-ISO thing has become more than an obsession...it's an absurdity. Like every other GAS-infected person out there, I drooled over the ISO capabilities of the D700 (and subsequently got one; 3.5 years later it's never let me down) when it was released. But at some point it just gets absurd. I sometimes get sucked into the clamor for more and more ISO power, until I return to film.
It's when I go back to shooting 400-800 speed film that I realize that ISO 25k or whatever we have now is totally unnecessary. The 6400 files on my D700 are usable, but what would I ever need that for? I capped the Auto ISO on the D700 at 3200. We are spoiled by this ever-increasing ISO ceiling. Who has ever been out shooting film and thought "man, I really wish I had brought that roll of ISO 51,600 with me"?
It's when I go back to shooting 400-800 speed film that I realize that ISO 25k or whatever we have now is totally unnecessary. The 6400 files on my D700 are usable, but what would I ever need that for? I capped the Auto ISO on the D700 at 3200. We are spoiled by this ever-increasing ISO ceiling. Who has ever been out shooting film and thought "man, I really wish I had brought that roll of ISO 51,600 with me"?
Hey, don't knock it, we all need to be able to shoot in light that is sooo dark that we can't find the camera or see our subject.
I didn't by the D300 'cause I knew the D700 was going to come out. I'm glad I didn't buy the D700 because the new D800 is so great.
I think I'll wait on the D800 and see what the next one is like perhaps the D900E or even the D1000E. Then even Canon may get into the fray..................!
Haha, sounds like you are not in need of a camera at all...
Gary Briggs
mamiyaDude
That guy that sounds like Ren Cockwell has a very diff take on all this....
thirtyfivefifty
Noctilust survivor
Haha what? :bang:
Like the af-d lenses that won't AF on the base model bodies?
Are you still stuck in 2008? I have to admit, the day Nikon took screw drive out of their lower models, I was thinking the same, "Where are the in-lens focusing lenses?" but guess what? They followed up! Big time over the years! A little reminder (zooms, a given and not need to be mentioned):
10.5G DX (Fish)
35/1.8G DX
40/2.8G DX (Micro)
84/3.5G DX (Micro)
24/1.4G
35/1.4G
50/1.8G
50/1.4G
85/1.8G
85/1.4G
Granted, they need to throw a nice "consumer" oriented wide prime in there and they are good to go. Canon JUST started releasing updates for the wide primes at 2.8 with a hefty price ($849? $799? Really?), which I'm not happy about. They turned all Hollywood and became obsessed with video development since they changed marketing strategy with the Canon EOS 5D Mark II.
chris00nj
Young Luddite
Well, we're getting completely shafted in the UK. £2400 and £2700 respectively for the D800/E.
As an ex-D700 owner who wanted FF video but can't afford a D4, this release was such a disappointment. Not to mention the absurd focus on MP rather than ISO. I imagine there are more hobbyists shooting in the dark than there are ones needing to blow their photos of cats up to billboard size.
I guess the D700 ate into their D3 sales too much, stopping them from making the D800 a mini D4.
Lol!
I'm not up to date on the specs, but what was the difference between the D700 and D3 to justify the huge price difference?
That guy that sounds like Ren Cockwell has a very diff take on all this....
Yep, he said "The D800E is for tweaks."
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
Kent, I can see your new kit... D800 with three zooms, plus the Pentax Q for backup. 
Frank Petronio
Well-known
Looks to me like there is now definitely room in the line-up for a low-light, high range, moderate resolution, compact camera for journalists and, umm, people like most of us.
It would be nice if Nikon made it ;-p
It would be nice if Nikon made it ;-p
gb hill
Veteran
Almost the same pixel's in a 24X36 frame as the Leica S2's 37.5 30X45. How many more pixel's are they gonna cram in there? I don't see Nikon or Canon ever going MF.
drew.saunders
Well-known
Nikon's pretty clever. They don't install an AA filter then charge you more for not installing it. The profits on the E are going to be sweet.
DPReview has a graphic explaining this:
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond800/page3.asp
Both the 800 and 800E have filters, they just do different things.
celluloidprop
Well-known
Action-freezing shutter-speed in low-ish light? Depth of field in low-ish light? A combination of the two? It's nice to not have to shoot at f/1.4 @ 1/30 sometimes.It's when I go back to shooting 400-800 speed film that I realize that ISO 25k or whatever we have now is totally unnecessary. The 6400 files on my D700 are usable, but what would I ever need that for?
I capped the Auto ISO on the D700 at 3200. We are spoiled by this ever-increasing ISO ceiling. Who has ever been out shooting film and thought "man, I really wish I had brought that roll of ISO 51,600 with me"?
When I shoot film, I find myself wishing for digital ISOs on a regular basis.
It's nice to not have to shoot at f/1.4 @ 1/30 sometimes.
Amen to that...
kdemas
Enjoy Life.
Kent, I can see your new kit... D800 with three zooms, plus the Pentax Q for backup.![]()
Not a bad idea Jamie
Alnitak
Established
I'm a tweak
I'm a tweak
Well, I for one have found this compelling. I love megapixels, the more the merrier. I can deal with the occasional moire in order to get the detail I want. As such, I pre-ordered a D800E last night right after the pre-order showed up on my favorite website. Hopefully I'll get one of the first batch.
I mostly shoot macro with my DSLR, and had been all Canon since the disappointment of the D2x a number of years back. The D3 and D700 were appealing in the high-ISO department, but not enough MP for me vs. the 5D II. In the intervening years that I flirted with Canon Nikon has updated many of their old lenses, made big leaps in high-ISO performance, and now turned out some great megapixels. I'm going back to dark side.
Jeff
I'm a tweak
Well, I for one have found this compelling. I love megapixels, the more the merrier. I can deal with the occasional moire in order to get the detail I want. As such, I pre-ordered a D800E last night right after the pre-order showed up on my favorite website. Hopefully I'll get one of the first batch.
I mostly shoot macro with my DSLR, and had been all Canon since the disappointment of the D2x a number of years back. The D3 and D700 were appealing in the high-ISO department, but not enough MP for me vs. the 5D II. In the intervening years that I flirted with Canon Nikon has updated many of their old lenses, made big leaps in high-ISO performance, and now turned out some great megapixels. I'm going back to dark side.
Jeff
gavinlg
Veteran
More megapixels is better. As digital technology gets better, the more megapixels there are, the less the images have that 'smooth' digital looks everyone seems to hate.
Seriously - it's not a bad thing.
Seriously - it's not a bad thing.
Frank Petronio
Well-known
I can hear people bitching about their crappy lenses already.... probably a good thing for Zeiss.
celluloidprop
Well-known
re: D800 @ 640 looking like a D700 @ 2500:
Looks pretty much noiseless when you resize it to D700 resolution.
punkromance;1806634 Aye said:http://chsv.nikon-image.com/products/camera/slr/digital/d800/img/sample01/img_02_l.jpg[/URL]
Looks pretty much noiseless when you resize it to D700 resolution.
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