ferider
Veteran
raid said:
He's right though, Raid. Your thread is called "The great 50s" in "Rangefinder general discussion";
missing the Nikkor 50/1.4 is definitely a gap in your 50 line-up, including the non-Leitz lenses
And the Canon 50/1.5 too
Best,
Roland (GAS enabler).
PS: for the price of a 50 Summilux asph, you could probably get a mint Nikkor RF set,
including the modern version of the 50/1.4.
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raid
Dad Photographer
Hello Roland,
I should have written the title "Great Leitz 50's"!
I love my Canon 50/1.2 so much that I had it as my main lens [along a 25mm]when I traveled to Germany. The Nikon 50/2 is no low achiever either or the Zeiss 50/2 or ... the list goes on and on. Still, I hold Leitz 50mm as very special lenses.
I gets confusing when opening the door for Canon and Nikon lenses, plus the newer lenses like the CV or Hexar or ...
Raid
I should have written the title "Great Leitz 50's"!
I love my Canon 50/1.2 so much that I had it as my main lens [along a 25mm]when I traveled to Germany. The Nikon 50/2 is no low achiever either or the Zeiss 50/2 or ... the list goes on and on. Still, I hold Leitz 50mm as very special lenses.
I gets confusing when opening the door for Canon and Nikon lenses, plus the newer lenses like the CV or Hexar or ...
Raid
raid
Dad Photographer
FrankS said:
Frank,
We have a very similar collection of 50's. You have the Elmar 50/2.8 that I don'thave,and your "first" Summicron is black;mine is chrome. I like chrome better.
Raid
raid
Dad Photographer
L39UK said:
Hello L39UK,
Maybe a confused collector will mail me the Hektor one day!
[I can dream, can't I].
I bet that coating will do miracles with the very old lenses. A collector may hesitate messing with a collectible lens.
Raid
thomasw_
Well-known
raid said:
For one, the transitions are creamier with the pre-asph. Like Ronald, I prefer it over the asph.. I agree it would be good to see a Leica 50 FL testing series along the lines you and Ronald conducted on the 35/40 FL lenses.
raid
Dad Photographer
thomasw_ said:
Thomas,
This is what I suspected.
I have tested in the past fifteen 50mm lenses, but I was not emphasizing Leitz lenses. Having a focused test with fewer lenses would be better. I tried out my Summicron first version, the collapsible Summicron, a borrowed Noctilux 50/1.0, the Summarit and the Summitar.
Raid
FrankS
Registered User
Good to hear that you have replaced your stolen Summar, Raid.
raid
Dad Photographer
FrankS said:
Yes, Frank, I waited and waited until I found a suitable example.
I have used the lens today, and I will use it with another roll soon.
By the way, how can I remove the "Summar wanted" under my avatar?
I tried in vain to recall how to do this.
Raid
raid
Dad Photographer
Meleica said:
Dan,
Isn't the DR Summicron identical to the rigid Summicron other than the closer focusing capability? So you see it close to the collapsible 'Cron?
The Type 4 Summicron is also called pre-asph Summicron?
Raid
Rico
Well-known
Two features it doesn't have are a readable DOF scale, and a 15-blade aperture. I don't mind a modern rendition at all, but short-throw focus is plain wrong. The Leitz Elmar f/2.8 is my only 50mm lens for RF, and I think it's divine.raid said:
vrgard
Well-known
Rico said:Two features it doesn't have are a readable DOF scale, and a 15-blade aperture. I don't mind a modern rendition at all, but short-throw focus is plain wrong. The Leitz Elmar f/2.8 is my only 50mm lens for RF, and I think it's divine.
Hey Rico, can I ask you to elaborate just a bit? I have an early Elmar 50/2.8 and really like it. So I'm curious to hear your thoughts on why you think the short-throw focus is wrong and why the 15-blade aperture is preferrable. Care to share?
Thanks,
Randy
raid
Dad Photographer
I doubt it that the Elmar 50/2.8 is somehow "better" than the Summicron 50/2. It is more compact.
vrgard
Well-known
I agree, Raid, in that it's not so much "better" as it is "different" in sometimes very subtle ways. And I was just curious what Rico's thoughts were behind his statements since I'm always trying to learn more about all this stuff.
-Randy
-Randy
raid
Dad Photographer
Randy: I have been fortunate enough to have had the chance to test quite a few 50mm lenses, but I have not tried out the Elmar 50/2.8. Maybe it is time that I do this.
Raid
Raid
35mmdelux
Veni, vidi, vici
harmsr said:
Without a doubt this must be true. That is, if one wants or can afford to spend large.
For me, I'm stoked with my 35 pre-asph summilux, 35 Elmar-M, and 35 Summicron IV. If I can't take great fotos with this gear, then I'm in the wrong avocation.
350D_user
B+W film devotee
ferider said:He's right though, Raid. Your thread is called "The great 50s" in "Rangefinder general discussion";
missing the Nikkor 50/1.4 is definitely a gap in your 50 line-up, including the non-Leitz lenses
And the Canon 50/1.5 too
... and the Industar-22's.
FrankS
Registered User
Is there such a thing as a "bad" 50? I don't think so. If it's not sharp, it simply has character.
vrgard
Well-known
FrankS said:
I like that, Frank. Makes me think I should get a t-shirt that says, "He's not sharp, he simply has character!"
-Randy
richard_l
Well-known
If it has crappy contrast, it has the 'vintage' look, and if blurry, it has a 'dreamy' look.FrankS said:
Richard
ferider
Veteran
vrgard said:I like that, Frank. Makes me think I should get a t-shirt that says, "He's not sharp, he simply has character!"
-Randy
And out of focus sometimes ....A badly collimated J-3 can be real cr*p though. Totally out of character ...