The Official RFF FIFA World Cup 2010 Thread

You have the chance to show your football once in 4 years, and then... nothing.
Italy just played 15 minutes in the whole tournament, hard to understand it.

How wise was Mourinho to use 11 non-italians to obtain the calcio cup.
 
Atto what you touched the point.
The funny thing is that on one side I support Inter (who won the Champions) but what lots of people are demanding more and more - and now you can see the results - is that is NOT possible that an ITALIAN team (Inter or whoever else) plays with so many foreign players. Not because of them of course but if all teams do like this, you can't develop a strong national team and maybe only few of you are aware of the really average level of players sported, chosen among minor teams just because major are all playing with foreign players. It's time to redefine rules I think. "Free trade about players" doesn't mean automatically that teams have suddenly no more young local players. Really a shame. Foreign champions should be as once, those 2-3 people coming to complete your miss, not building the whole team. Once there were Platini, Zico, Maradona. They rightfully stood out the crowd of "phenomenons", nowadays every young player "just because comes from South America" is a new this and that.. if it's not idiotic fanboyism this one....
About me, and despite Inter won the last 5 national tournaments, I stopped following football in 1998 (National team aside, of course) because everything has become too much a money thing and I hated it since the beginning.
 
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Well done Slovakia! The quality of the England national side has been affected by the number of non-English players in the Prem, maybe the same in Serie A too? Yes the team was old and the approach conservative, but look at Inter - Treble winners, definitely the best team in Europe but very often no Italian players start their matches.

Amazing that both finalists from the 2006 WC are gone!
 
Well we may go out on Sunday! :p
Atto said:
You have the chance to show your football once in 4 years, and then... nothing.
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I think it depends on where the money flows, and that is to club football. My own team (Manchester United) has a small number of English players but a large number of the squad are foreign. Arsenal rarely start an English player and often are all-foreign just like Inter. (The difference is that Arsenal play rubbish football. :D)

To be honest I think the quality is higher in the Champions League and to a lesser extent the Copa Libertadores than the WC. Inter were absolutely awesome to watch this season and IMHO would beat any of the national teams I've seen play in this WC so far.

You want to see really great football? Watch the latter stages of the Champions League.
 
The Netherlands will play Cameroun tonight. Capetown has turned orange. The Dutch are already through for the next series and Cameroun is out. This should be a nice game. Nothing much to loose for both teams. Biassed perhaps, but I go for 3-1 for the Dutch. What do you say?
 
I still can no believe it we have made it through - it was very tight victory in the end (I am not a true fan, but could not avoid to watch). Paraguay had more troubles with NZ than expected.

Now I am off to work-meeting (per EVO, lucky me) with my Italian colleagues ... :angel:
 
peter_n said:
... Inter were absolutely awesome to watch this season and IMHO would beat any of the national teams I've seen play in this WC so far.

You want to see really great football? Watch the latter stages of the Champions League.
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I do not agree, I much prefer to see playing this Brasil and obviously Argentina, than the conservative Inter of Mourinho. Just remember the second match against Barcelona, they passed OK, but was so awful the way of play. They never try to attack.

Give me Maicon-Kaka-Robinho or Veron-Tevez-Messi, they propose what is beautiful in this game, they believe that attacking is the way to play.

Champions better than Libertadores? mmh not so sure.

Let's see Chile tomorrow, if pass ALL Southamerican teams will be into next round. Why? because all of them look for score.
 
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Inter... IMHO would beat any of the national teams I've seen play in this WC so far.
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No chance against Argentina, why? Walter Samuel will be not there to stop the attackers, and which one will score for Inter? Diego Milito will be not there to do it, will be taking a snap in the bench of Argentina.
 
italy74 said:
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About me, and despite Inter won the last 5 national tournaments, I stopped following football in 1998 (National team aside, of course) because everything has become too much a money thing and I hated it since the beginning.
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Oh, I can fully understand that!

That's why I am very happy that FC St. Pauli now made it into the German 1. Bundesliga. See how they will do next season.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_vc37upCd8

Cheers,
Uwe
 
Ciao Uwe
since you're German, let me take the opportunity to reply also to other members about the latest Champions about Inter - Bayern. I've no idea how old are you and of course it's nothing "personal" but winning against the german team was a great "satisfaction". Almost 20 yrs ago we played back - other time other places, two epic matches, one in Munich won by Inter 2-0 and one in Mailand won by Bayern 3-1 when (go figure!) our german player defender Brehme was out for an infortune and Germans scored 3 goals in 7 minutes then disappearing for all the rest of the match. It was really a kind of bewitched one, you know when you try everything and the ball just don't enter the goal. In may we finally overcome that evil curse that haunted us for so many years. More or less like when in 2006 Italy won against France at penalties. A few years before France won just against us and we have always been "cursed" at penalties as well. Once in a lifetime we got both. Italy82 has rightfully been "updated" to "Italy06" but as always these things happen once every 20-30 yrs if no longer so we enjoyed our Berlin night really a lot.
Again, we had to play against "curses" not against other teams, ok ???
Life is often a continue alternation among victory and defeat. Usually the one follows the other sooner or later. Now we are at the bottom of the descending parable, maybe next time will go better.
 
italy74 said:
Ciao Uwe
since you're German, let me take the opportunity to reply also to other members about the latest Champions about Inter - Bayern. I've no idea how old are you and of course it's nothing "personal" but winning against the german team was a great "satisfaction". ...
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Ciao Dino,

Oh, it was a great satisfaction for me as well!
I do not like Bayern Munich - and I am not alone.:angel:

And anyway, they are not German, they are Bavarian. :rolleyes:

I was not too satisfied back in 2006, though... ;)

Cheers,
Uwe
 
Oh, yes I know the diatribe between Bavarian and Prussian Germans, I have a very dear friend from Chemnitz always rememebering me that. Yet, maybe you might be surprised that a Bavarian soap "Sturm der Liebe" moved me to visit South Germany last october. Their photographer worked much better than the whole tourism office and and I found some of the most beautiful and gorgeous landscapes I had ever seen, namely in the Berchtesgadener Land (who doesn't know the St. Bartholoma church on the Koniggsee and the quietness of the Maria Gern valley?) For landscapers and nature lovers that's a "must see". Believe me, they are not that bad.
 
@ Atto: Since Internazionale are a team of non-Italians, I'm making the assumption here that their first team would remain, so Lucio and Samuel are the center backs, Sneijder and Cambiasso in the middle, Eto'o and Milito the front men etc., etc. So I do think that team playing like it did against Chelsea and Barcalona and coached by Mourinho, would beat any national side. We should agree to disagree; I see beauty in Mourinho's approach of giving the ball away in your own half of the field and playing on the counter-attack, it's a chess game and goals aren't everything.

I'm actually an admirer of the Argentinian game and have watched the Primera Division there for some years. Amazing to see Argentinos Juniors win the Clausura! :) I'm a closet fan of Boca Juniors and one of my dearest wishes is to one day visit La Bombonera to see them play. :D

Just a couple weeks ago I fished out the tape I have of that fantastic goal in the 2006 WC against Serbia & Montenegro. I have a question for you - how come Cambiasso isn't in this squad? He was bang in form in the second half of the season. :confused:
 
italy74 said:
Oh, yes I know the diatribe between Bavarian and Prussian Germans, I have a very dear friend from Chemnitz always rememebering me that. Yet, maybe you might be surprised that a Bavarian soap "Sturm der Liebe" moved me to visit South Germany last october. Their photographer worked much better than the whole tourism office and and I found some of the most beautiful and gorgeous landscapes I had ever seen, namely in the Berchtesgadener Land (who doesn't know the St. Bartholoma church on the Koniggsee and the quietness of the Maria Gern valley?) For landscapers and nature lovers that's a "must see". Believe me, they are not that bad.
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maybe they're not THAT bad, but our beer is definitely better. :p
 
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