Thardy
Veteran
I was thinking a little more East.
M. Valdemar
Well-known
Why would they not think it was "stupid" if they "got it"?
The person might be highly educated and intelligent, but he just feels that using antiquated lenses and a manual focus system to not be as efficient or effective as using modern AF equipment. They are perfectly entitled to their opinion, just as you feel that using antiquated equipment gives you better "vision", feelings of being artistic, more control, nicer images, or whatever.
Some people think turntables and vinyl records are "stupid", others claim more musicality over digital storage.
It's just an opinion, not a matter of "getting" anything. "Getting it" meaning it's superior because you like it is an elitist concept.
The person might be highly educated and intelligent, but he just feels that using antiquated lenses and a manual focus system to not be as efficient or effective as using modern AF equipment. They are perfectly entitled to their opinion, just as you feel that using antiquated equipment gives you better "vision", feelings of being artistic, more control, nicer images, or whatever.
Some people think turntables and vinyl records are "stupid", others claim more musicality over digital storage.
It's just an opinion, not a matter of "getting" anything. "Getting it" meaning it's superior because you like it is an elitist concept.
gavinlg
Veteran
ORDER... ORDER IN THE COURT..
Judge Valdemar demands the defendant speak the truth!
maddoc
... likes film again.
Either your explanation was far above his level of understanding or ............ you forgot to mount a lens ?...... 
:angel:
:angel:M. Valdemar
Well-known
It's always best to hear both sides of an incident before drawing conclusions.
The OP wanted to validate his experience by sharing it with a like-minded group and getting "high-fived". I'm simply curious as to what was said to the other party.
Rarely do people act dismissive in this fashion out of the blue. Perhaps the man who felt it was "stupid" felt he was being treated in a condescending manner?
The OP wanted to validate his experience by sharing it with a like-minded group and getting "high-fived". I'm simply curious as to what was said to the other party.
Rarely do people act dismissive in this fashion out of the blue. Perhaps the man who felt it was "stupid" felt he was being treated in a condescending manner?
gavinlg
Veteran
I don't doubt. One thing about rangefinder guys is they can be exactly like the DSLR guys they so quickly dismiss as snobs. I actually enjoy the tension. Each group thinks the other is a bunch of kooks.
Ming The Merciless
Established
Perhaps the guy was tipsy and didn't know what he was saying.
mobilexile
Well-known
Did someone pee in your Cheerios™ this morning?
mobilexile
Well-known
I don't get this thread??
"Some guy" didn't like the OP's camera. There aren't too many who like my Kiev.
Not much to get, really.
I don't honestly care if someone understands why I like shooting with my R-D1s. The experience always brings a smile to my face and I'm happy with the results.
jmkelly
rangefinder user
I was at a picnic last week where the only folks who didn't have a PhD or DVM (or both) were in pre-school. Had the R-D1 and the IIIf. One woman mentioned that a friend of hers was really into old Leicas but nobody else took much notice.
When I'm out with old cameras I'm always mildly surprised when anyone takes any notice, positive or negative. I would be very surprised to hear "stupid" from an adult, unless they were clearly drunk - even my toddler knows it is boorish to use "stupid" in polite conversation (Fred, M.V. - machts nichts what Akiva may have said to the guy, or how he said it).
My R-D1 is too difficult to repair for me to use it as a club, but I might have come back on the guy with "NASCAR fan, huh? Thought so."
When I'm out with old cameras I'm always mildly surprised when anyone takes any notice, positive or negative. I would be very surprised to hear "stupid" from an adult, unless they were clearly drunk - even my toddler knows it is boorish to use "stupid" in polite conversation (Fred, M.V. - machts nichts what Akiva may have said to the guy, or how he said it).
My R-D1 is too difficult to repair for me to use it as a club, but I might have come back on the guy with "NASCAR fan, huh? Thought so."
M. Valdemar
Well-known
Scientologists feel they "get it" and you don't.
People who belong to a cult that believes the world is ending and that they must drink poisoned kool-aid are positive they "get it" and you don't.
"Getting it" is subjective. I am merely saying that person can "get something", "grok something", or whatever, and still not agree with your opinion.
People who belong to a cult that believes the world is ending and that they must drink poisoned kool-aid are positive they "get it" and you don't.
"Getting it" is subjective. I am merely saying that person can "get something", "grok something", or whatever, and still not agree with your opinion.
jmkelly
rangefinder user
And whether one "gets it" or not doesn't make one "stupid".
"My mamma always used to say 'stupid is as stupid does'" - Forrest Gump
"My mamma always used to say 'stupid is as stupid does'" - Forrest Gump
jmkelly
rangefinder user
And then it's possible the intent of Akiva's interlocutor was lost in the OP: Perhaps what he said was not "stupid", but "STOO-pid!", as in "stupid bad".
iamzip
Ambitious, but rubbish
I think that's really the point of the thread, not so much whether or not he understands the camera, but his rudeness in his choice of words. As users of RFs / film cameras, I think we are quick to shift into that mentality of whether or not outsiders "get it."
nikon_sam
Shooter of Film...
"They said I was stupid..."
"They"...who is they??? You said "someguy"
"I was stupid..." It sounds like this someguy said that the camera was stupid not you...
Your Thread Title appears as if you took this comment way too personal...
You may have explained the camera perfectly and he may have understood it totally and clearly and in the end still thought that this camera for whatever his reason was "Stupid"...
That's his opinion, he's entitled to it...Don't worry about it. it has nothing to do with you...
"They"...who is they??? You said "someguy"
"I was stupid..." It sounds like this someguy said that the camera was stupid not you...
Your Thread Title appears as if you took this comment way too personal...
You may have explained the camera perfectly and he may have understood it totally and clearly and in the end still thought that this camera for whatever his reason was "Stupid"...
That's his opinion, he's entitled to it...Don't worry about it. it has nothing to do with you...
yanidel
Well-known
eh eh eh ... you got a good laugh out of me after 90 minutes in Paris traffic jams with 32 celsius, no AC ! thanks.
the people staring at my RD1 are other photographers that usually wonder why I look at the back at the camera after taking a shot.
chikne
Well-known
They obviously don't get it.
jarski
Veteran
kxl
Social Documentary
Stupid or Stew peed ???
Stupid or Stew peed ???
Maybe he was just talking about his friend Stew, who up until that evening was suffering from Paruresis ?
Stupid or Stew peed ???
Maybe he was just talking about his friend Stew, who up until that evening was suffering from Paruresis ?
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Darren Abate
Professional Shooter
A very fine point!