Quash
Member
Fujiguys released two more videos today, for a total of three. Putting all three links here so they're easy to locate in one place.
Video #1 - Shutter and aperture demo (beeps on)
http://bit.ly/fyQRNF
Video #2 - Shutter and aperture demo (beeps turned off)
http://bit.ly/i84kY3
(Think lag will be okay; not sure if I like shutter sound)
Video #3 - Dials being rotated demo:
http://bit.ly/fFBnM3
(Love the solid clicks; I can live with focus by wire)
Video #1 - Shutter and aperture demo (beeps on)
http://bit.ly/fyQRNF
Video #2 - Shutter and aperture demo (beeps turned off)
http://bit.ly/i84kY3
(Think lag will be okay; not sure if I like shutter sound)
Video #3 - Dials being rotated demo:
http://bit.ly/fFBnM3
(Love the solid clicks; I can live with focus by wire)
ZeissFan
Veteran
If nothing else, they certainly know how to keep up the excitement level. And they're doing a great job at it.
Pablito
coco frío
totally hysterical.
with each "click" the price goes up.
with each "click" the price goes up.
gavinlg
Veteran
The price hasn't gone up since they said the expected rrp a few months ago.
tapesonthefloor
Well-known
You don't know that. In fact, many major retailers that provided pre-order prices have since removed them.
gavinlg
Veteran
well... we'll see... I'm not worried.
retnull
Well-known
Watching such intimate fondling, caressing, stroking makes me feel kinda uncomfortable. Some things should be private, no?
Pablito
coco frío
Spyro
Well-known
get a room
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I've got no problems with the camera and would happily have one, funds allowing, but this is starting to get a little nauseating!
_larky
Well-known
Ye, this is all getting a little odd now.
totifoto
Well-known
First I was very excited about this camera, now I´m getting pissed. When are they gonna show us some samples from this camera :bang:
videogamemaker
Well-known
Lots of negativity in here. If you aren't interested, stop checking this forum. It's for people who are interested, and do want to obsess over every little thing. Immature and childish? maybe, sure, but it's fun!
We're already discussing these videos in the fujiguys tweets thread, and since the mood is already sour in this one, it might be better to keep the conversation about the videos in that thread, Quash.
We're already discussing these videos in the fujiguys tweets thread, and since the mood is already sour in this one, it might be better to keep the conversation about the videos in that thread, Quash.
Pablito
coco frío
Actually the conversation refers specifically to the videos. I don't find the mood sour at all; rather, humorous. And with a fair share of frustration at the manufacturer. Personally, I find the fetishizing of this "object of desire" quite fascinating. Seems to be an utterly male phenomenon and tied to the notion of "hobby". Or the relation between "hobby" and personal identity or something like that. I can relate to that but not in photography, since I make my living at it. To me, cameras are just a means to and end and this Fuji thing is interesting enough but not an obsession as it seems to be for so many. But I'm not saying there is necessarily anything wrong with that. I have experienced similar "hobby" obsessions, for instance when I used to build my own bicycles or tend several big aquariums of fancy and very expensive Chinese goldfish. Anyway, the thread is about the videos, why not discuss the videos in a broader sociological context?
GSNfan
Well-known
Don't you feel by being so controlling of X100 discussions, you're actually adding to feelings of hostility towards Fuji X100 and the way its marketed?
Rogier
Rogier Willems
Mechanical masturbation....
Jamie123
Veteran
They should definitely use a hand model next time. The nails on this guy are pretty awful and defnitely not fit for a close-up.
videogamemaker
Well-known
No? It's really tiresome, and I'd much prefer if the moderators deleted no-content posts. I think the feelings of those who post on topic in a sub forum should come above those who want to disparage unchecked. I should ignore it though and post on topic, which is what I try to do, but not always successful.
Well, I agree. I think the fetish-izing of mechanical construction, while maybe not particular male (I know of several women who are like this, but they are certainly not the norm), it is fascinating! How something like the construction can totally change the user experience. I would think it would be very on-topic for RFF where it's arguable that the mechanical construction is a big draw of the rangefinder experience.
That said, I don't really feel much if any of that from these videos. If I think back on it, they do look well constructed and click well, but it wasn't "slick" enough to make the (in need of manicure) fingers disappear and allow me to focus on the construction. The videos are interesting (to some) because they give a rough idea of volume level in operation and shutter lag, both features important to camera buyers, and statistics not released yet in marketing material. Also because the camera isn't out yet to try, and this is the only trickle of information for those of us who are too obsessed to forget about it till launch day.
On the off-topic of bicycles, I used to do all my own maintenance as a teenager, and I found to my horror the inability to true my wheel recently. I used to be able to do it with two rocks and 5 minutes, and now I had to go buy a tool and dig deep in the memory. It was horrible, I'm getting old.
GSNfan
Well-known
I don't think its too complicated to figure out the appeal of such videos and X100 itself.
X100 is a digital affordable Leica, plain and simple. A Leica is desired because it was the camera of jet-setting, globe-trotting photographers of the past - HCB, Ralph Gibson etc... It represented the life-style of a refined and cultured man who had a good bank balance, and a taste for adventure. A Leica in your hand, lets say in 60s and 70s meant you were actually somebody, while during 80s it meant you were part of the successful nouveau riche.
That aura still prevails, and people buy into it, because people are the same. Throughout history there was Leica sort of things that man aspired to owning. It is all simply about social status and male territorial displays. How do you differentiate yourself from the countless horde? You buy a Leica, a Harley Davidson, a Porsche. When you can do that, you're a success.
However, the only problem is that these days any kid with a part-time job and a $1000 credit card limit can buy a Leica M body in pretty decent condition. Ebay is full of Leica cameras and lenses and so is the classified in here. Then why still the mystique? Its because a majority of Leica cameras are film cameras. Film is still associated with art photography and photographers of the past. Using a Leica M is connecting to the past of photography itself, that very idea makes a Leica still a status symbol, not materially but artistic.
Fuji wants some of that Leica action with this dinky little camera called X100, and they're doing everything to play into that irrational psyche of man that wants to differentiate himself from others by 'products'. Are they succeeding, yes they're. Even if X100 lags like hell and has major flaws people still will buy it, so they could put it on the table in their local Starbucks. or do one of those show-and-tell things in a 'get-togather'. If Sigma could sell its overpriced and under-performing DP1 and 2, why not Fuji can do the same with a much better looking camera?
These videos might seem annoying and silly to some, but in fact they're extremely clever and subliminal. The annoyance that people feel by watching these videos is simply because of their inability to do the tests themselves.
Moderators delete all post other than those who agree with you? No, I think it would be more likely for redundancy to be reduced. Everyone is just expressing opinions, nobody says they have to agree with you, and they all are welcome. All of our opinions are just as wrong as everyone else's. You are going to have to accept that.