Time for a new gender poll too ..
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Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
The old camera/film preference here might be what limits the number of ladies in our membership.
tunalegs
Pretended Artist
Maybe an age poll would provide further enlightenment.
Pál_K
Cameras. I has it.
I made such a photo-site poll elsewhere; the majority was 60-69 years, second largest was 50-59 years, nobody in their 20's.
I am a male and that's how I responded to this poll. However, I should also mention that I'm a cat.
iphoenix
Well-known
Wasn't sure, so had to look 😱.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Yes, that's it: women do not like analogue photography and certainly not black and white. I'm so happy that we have Helen.
Erik.
peterm1
Veteran
It can be said however, that young women seem to be captivated by Leica. At least in my experience. Almost every time I go out into a crowded space with my M8 on my chest, someone (and that "someone" has almost exclusively been one or other young woman) recognizes the marque immediately and comments admiringly on it. (And in case you think those comments go to my head I need to add that their next comment is usually something like " My father, or my elderly uncle, or my grandfather had one that looked very like that". Which rather deflates me.)
It should be added that these young people (mainly women as I say) are exclusively "of a certain age" - millennials, I suppose for whom chromey square looking cameras with strange metal "lensy" things on the front are trendy because they do not look like an iphone.
But I would also say that there seems to be a trend amongst this age group more generally for using film. At least in theory, since I am not sure any of those I have spoken too have actually done this themselves but "they would like to one day". Because it is fashionable - like wearing 40 year old Levi's no doubt. Or getting a tattoo.
Pál_K
Cameras. I has it.
In my age survey thread on another photo forum, someone commented that the lack of younger participants (under 20) waa due largely to that demographic group not liking to use formal internet forums - that they much preferred a more interactive, spontaneous, "push" style such as Instagram. The participation format of sites like this doesn't appeal to them. That's the theory (*).
Women have always been scarce in any of the forums I've participated in, Firearms, Mechanical Watches, Sports Cars, Photography, and Music (sax and guitars). There's one exception: a site devoted to professional language translation. There, women seem to be a majority.
It must be you 🙂
In over 30 years, no woman has noticed my M3, M6, Barnack Leica, nor any other camera I have. Actually, nobody has.
(*) A similar observation was made years ago in one of my car clubs: younger people aren't inclined to the formal "meet at this cafe the first Tuesday of every month" style of club. Rather, they are loosely-knit and communicate and arrange drives spontaneously by text messages.
Women have always been scarce in any of the forums I've participated in, Firearms, Mechanical Watches, Sports Cars, Photography, and Music (sax and guitars). There's one exception: a site devoted to professional language translation. There, women seem to be a majority.
It must be you 🙂
In over 30 years, no woman has noticed my M3, M6, Barnack Leica, nor any other camera I have. Actually, nobody has.
(*) A similar observation was made years ago in one of my car clubs: younger people aren't inclined to the formal "meet at this cafe the first Tuesday of every month" style of club. Rather, they are loosely-knit and communicate and arrange drives spontaneously by text messages.
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
"It can be said however, that young women seem to be captivated by Leica. At least in my experience. Almost every time I go out into a crowded space with my M8 on my chest, someone (and that "someone" has almost exclusively been one or other young woman) recognizes the marque immediately and comments admiringly on it. (And in case you think those comments go to my head I need to add that their next comment is usually something like " My father, or my elderly uncle, or my grandfather had one that looked very like that". Which rather deflates me."
Best I've ever done is the usual "Is that a film camera", and that from males. I must be more decrepit looking than Petern. I think like others that the focus (!) on RFs, Film, and the general Luddite pattern that runs through the group might be off putting for younger folks as well as Ladies in general. Not that that needs changing but it's just gonna be what it is around here. Perhaps that is the reason that the ladies that we do attract are of such high caliber.
Best I've ever done is the usual "Is that a film camera", and that from males. I must be more decrepit looking than Petern. I think like others that the focus (!) on RFs, Film, and the general Luddite pattern that runs through the group might be off putting for younger folks as well as Ladies in general. Not that that needs changing but it's just gonna be what it is around here. Perhaps that is the reason that the ladies that we do attract are of such high caliber.
nickthetasmaniac
Veteran
That's a long way from my experience. The only people who have ever commented on my M2 are older, white men...
That's probably true. I follow a lot of photography groups on Facebook and post a lot of film stuff on Instagram, and in both cases there are heaps (majority?) of younger members, many doing fantastic work. From conversations I've had, I don't think many of them actually know about 'traditional' forums like RFF.
They're still all male though... 🙂
Oscuro
He's French, I'm Italian.
Darlings,
I am reading very many broad generalization - "Women like..., women don't....," etc. If you made them, you are forgiven. The only thing you might be able to say is, women aren't monolithic mass.
I can say that, man or woman, who talk about what (or sometimes how) they do with the camera is much more interesting than talking about what camera can do.
For the records, I am, as my mother says, "not old, not young". Born just after the "police action" in Korea. But not long after....
Ciao!
Mme. O
I am reading very many broad generalization - "Women like..., women don't....," etc. If you made them, you are forgiven. The only thing you might be able to say is, women aren't monolithic mass.
I can say that, man or woman, who talk about what (or sometimes how) they do with the camera is much more interesting than talking about what camera can do.
For the records, I am, as my mother says, "not old, not young". Born just after the "police action" in Korea. But not long after....
Ciao!
Mme. O
kshapero
South Florida Man
My wife says I eat like an animal. She did not specify a gender. So i guess I am confused.
helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
old thread and this is the first time I have seen it... giggles
Thanks for the mention here and there !
I must be an oddity, a woman, a rangefinder, b&w, to have lasted here as long as i have
though I will confess, lots of 'good' company, lots of dear friends...
Thanks for the mention here and there !
I must be an oddity, a woman, a rangefinder, b&w, to have lasted here as long as i have
though I will confess, lots of 'good' company, lots of dear friends...
JohnWolf
Well-known
I'm very glad you're still here, Helen. If I were King of RFF, I'd drop a couple mentors who don't contribute often and recruit female replacements. More female members would enrich the forum.
John
John
CMur12
Veteran
I agree, John. I always look forward to Helen's perspective when she drops in. Mme O has made some great contributions recently, also.
- Murray
Bille
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airfrogusmc
Veteran
+++++++++++1
robert blu
quiet photographer
Fully agree
robert blu
quiet photographer
In my life (not the web life which is also important) I have many photographers friends.
Most of them are male. But we (I and my wife) also have female photographers friends and I have to say are the most interesting to spend time with. More creative, more attention to the image and the meaning of the image, less obsession for the last hi-tech gadget.
I do not like to spend time listening to the difference between the camera xxy and the xxy.2 ! I prefer to discuss projects, authors, ideas.
Of course generalisations are not always valid but this is why I support the idea to have more female photographers 🙂
Most of them are male. But we (I and my wife) also have female photographers friends and I have to say are the most interesting to spend time with. More creative, more attention to the image and the meaning of the image, less obsession for the last hi-tech gadget.
I do not like to spend time listening to the difference between the camera xxy and the xxy.2 ! I prefer to discuss projects, authors, ideas.
Of course generalisations are not always valid but this is why I support the idea to have more female photographers 🙂
Bob Michaels
nobody special
I could care less if someone has a penis or a vagina as our relationship will not involve such. I do care about their philosophy, goals, culture, and areas of common interest.
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