robert blu
quiet photographer
Originally Posted by Jocko
..... with the clear understanding that the gallery is not a dumping ground for happy snaps, but a showcase in which every image is intended to invite critical comment and discussion.
personally I agree with above sentence.
..... with the clear understanding that the gallery is not a dumping ground for happy snaps, but a showcase in which every image is intended to invite critical comment and discussion.
personally I agree with above sentence.
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
raid amin said:
I think, Raid, that it makes sense to split the uploads into a hosting area and a "showoff"
area. That way your upload limit would not be curtailed, but you would have to decide which ones are most worthy.
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Biber
Established
One idea could be to display the last image in each gallery rather than every file, that would reduce the flooding of the index while still allowing people to upload the same amount of photos.
Biber said:
Another good idea.
back alley
IMAGES
i doubt that jorge will change his policy in this matter.
for me, this is a no win situation as no matter what is decided someone will not like the solution.
i rarely post pics here because they usually get little or no attention/comments.
if i was really motivated, i would use my blogs more and ask for people to view them and offer comments.
that would be my suggestion to all, start a blog and flog it.
just my personal opinion...
joe
for me, this is a no win situation as no matter what is decided someone will not like the solution.
i rarely post pics here because they usually get little or no attention/comments.
if i was really motivated, i would use my blogs more and ask for people to view them and offer comments.
that would be my suggestion to all, start a blog and flog it.
just my personal opinion...
joe
back alley
IMAGES
when i am in the mood and have time, this is what i do to look at photos in the gallery...
...Recent Photos 1 day 7 days 14 days all...
this is atop the categories and i usually hit 1 day to view what has been posted that day.
very simple, no search necessary, almost effortless.
...Recent Photos 1 day 7 days 14 days all...
this is atop the categories and i usually hit 1 day to view what has been posted that day.
very simple, no search necessary, almost effortless.
Gid
Well-known
First off, hands up, I'm guilty of uploading mutiple images - uploaded 10 on Sunday. Did think about splitting the upload, but I don't have a lot of time at the moment. This was my first upload for some considerable time.
A few comments on previous posts.
I don't upload everything I shoot. I upload what I AM HAPPY for others to see. If the viewer considers them snapshots then that's the viewers issue not mine. I've just checked out the gallery and a well respected member had about 11 images on display - I personally didn't consider them snapshots and judging by some of the comments there are others who would agree with me. So, my point is, multiple uploads don't necessarily equate to poor quality and uploading only one doesn't necessarily equate to quality.
There are 12 slots for recently posted images and at busy times an image is gone from the front page in under an hour. The issue is more to do with the number of thumbnails visible on the front page of the gallery. I don't have an answer to this, but this is a more important issue to tackle if you want to be able to see recently (e.g. today) posted images at a glance without the bother of going to page 2,3 .............. There have been 89 images posted today. That equates to 5 per hour (approx), so today, on average, one image would have been visible for just over 2 hours.
I don't disagree with limiting the number of images uploaded at any one time and I will apply my own limit in future as a matter of etiquette.
There should probably be a separate upload area for those who want their images critiqued by others. My guess is that this would attract a lower number of images (judging by the number of posts asking for a rating).
My two pennies worth.
A few comments on previous posts.
I don't upload everything I shoot. I upload what I AM HAPPY for others to see. If the viewer considers them snapshots then that's the viewers issue not mine. I've just checked out the gallery and a well respected member had about 11 images on display - I personally didn't consider them snapshots and judging by some of the comments there are others who would agree with me. So, my point is, multiple uploads don't necessarily equate to poor quality and uploading only one doesn't necessarily equate to quality.
There are 12 slots for recently posted images and at busy times an image is gone from the front page in under an hour. The issue is more to do with the number of thumbnails visible on the front page of the gallery. I don't have an answer to this, but this is a more important issue to tackle if you want to be able to see recently (e.g. today) posted images at a glance without the bother of going to page 2,3 .............. There have been 89 images posted today. That equates to 5 per hour (approx), so today, on average, one image would have been visible for just over 2 hours.
I don't disagree with limiting the number of images uploaded at any one time and I will apply my own limit in future as a matter of etiquette.
There should probably be a separate upload area for those who want their images critiqued by others. My guess is that this would attract a lower number of images (judging by the number of posts asking for a rating).
My two pennies worth.
jano
Evil Bokeh
I don't use the main gallery page to look at images. I click the "1 day" view, peruse the individual thumbnails, then move page by page. If I see something I like, great, I comment. In using the tools this way, the number of uploaded images doesn't make a difference, just means I have to look through more *shrug*
There is a limit per day to the uploads. The moste recent gallery was showing 12 pictures I have increased that number to 20.
Andrew Sowerby
Well-known
jano said:
That's a good system.
Marc-A.
I Shoot Film
Joe, in most of cases, when you're changing things, you can't fulfill everbody; that doesn't mean you cannot change things. Besides, it's not a no win game, since some can be satisfied with the solution.back alley said:
Anyway, I totally agree w/ Keith.
I wouldn't have pointed out this problem, but as it came up I have my opinion on the subject: most of us (with or without the three stars) submit only 3/4/5 images that we consider good enough to be seen. Now, a few ones think that their whole rolls deserve to be seen ... they paid for that, they have their stars ... who can do something against this excessive behaviour?
I think the 5 images per day rule was a pretty good rule. It makes people think carefully about their submissions.
Marc
PS: Gid, I don't think you were targeted.
jano
Evil Bokeh
dadsm3
Well-known
At the risk of being rather subjective, if you knocked off all the DSLR and digital point&shoot shots from this RFF gallery it might be a little more manageable and enjoyable to peruse....and while I'm at it, the posters who can't be bothered to help the rest of us out by giving out some basic info on how they attained the shot shouldn't be surprised if people can't be bothered to comment.
dadsm3 said:
Very difficult to police. There is a gallery for non RF images which should be used.
Gid
Well-known
Marc,
Thanks. What concerns me is the emergence of an elitist attitude. One of the best things about RFF is that it could never be labelled as elitist. Eccentric possibly and ocassionally sparky, but not elitist. I have no argument with being a bit more sensible about how much anyone posts at any one time, but if a member wants to post a whole roll without self editing, then, that's their prerogative. Unless you're in possession of a Pulitzer or are held in high regard in the photography world and recognised as an expert then I think we should all be very careful about being derogatory about others images. Glass houses and stones spring to mind.
Thanks. What concerns me is the emergence of an elitist attitude. One of the best things about RFF is that it could never be labelled as elitist. Eccentric possibly and ocassionally sparky, but not elitist. I have no argument with being a bit more sensible about how much anyone posts at any one time, but if a member wants to post a whole roll without self editing, then, that's their prerogative. Unless you're in possession of a Pulitzer or are held in high regard in the photography world and recognised as an expert then I think we should all be very careful about being derogatory about others images. Glass houses and stones spring to mind.
mal
Member
If I was able to produce five worthy images a year I'd be very happy. The habit of posting everything in your album is devaluing the site and making it less enjoyable. Even with the extended gallery, currently one person dominates with FOURTEEN shots.
Maybe the section that advertises the most prolific posters should be deleted as it may act as an incentive to some to post their entire output.
S
Socke
Guest
keithwms said:
I'd make a "For Critique" or "W/NW" thread from the picture.
chris91387
Well-known
my 2 cents...
for me, i like seeing what everyone else is doing and checking in on certain discussions. however, i do feel bombarded when i check in and see a ton of pictures from the same person and they all have the same look. i find that boring. what excites me most is checking in on the posts and seeing a variety of thumbnails from various photographers.
luckily this doesn't seem to happen very often. most of the people on this forum are good at editing and selecting just a few rather than posting every shot from an entire roll.
if i want to be bombarded by photos i'll go to pbase or photo.net
another thought that i'm sure will cause some discussion: is there really a need to post non rf pictures? i mean, this is mainly a rf forum. (admittedly, one of my whopping four uploaded pictures is from a diana toy camera and i would happily take it down if the consensus was to stay with just rf pictures)
again, just my 2 cents here.
- chris
for me, i like seeing what everyone else is doing and checking in on certain discussions. however, i do feel bombarded when i check in and see a ton of pictures from the same person and they all have the same look. i find that boring. what excites me most is checking in on the posts and seeing a variety of thumbnails from various photographers.
luckily this doesn't seem to happen very often. most of the people on this forum are good at editing and selecting just a few rather than posting every shot from an entire roll.
if i want to be bombarded by photos i'll go to pbase or photo.net
another thought that i'm sure will cause some discussion: is there really a need to post non rf pictures? i mean, this is mainly a rf forum. (admittedly, one of my whopping four uploaded pictures is from a diana toy camera and i would happily take it down if the consensus was to stay with just rf pictures)
again, just my 2 cents here.
- chris
keithwms
Established
Jorge Torralba said:
Jorge, why not decrease the post rate to 1 post per day. That is 7 per week, that is already a lot of material.
Gid, this wouldn't be elitist at all. An example of elitism would be if I said that my stuff is better than someone else's and should therefore get more air time. I have not and would not say anything of the sort! I am for an egalitarian policy! But one can be egalitarian and allow everyone 20 posts per day, or one can be egalitarian and allow everyone 1 post per day. Which alternative do you honestly think will maintain the quality of the posts and the depth of the comments and critique?
I think that being egalitarian means that everyone has an equal probability of having their photo seen by others. Now, this is a simple issue of probability. If I post one shot and Mr. X posts 10, and all of those shots are seen in the form of some tiny thumbnail, well... :bang:
I have an idea: post one image with a left-pointing arrow. Then post the photo that you wish for people to notice. Then post another photo with a right-pointing arrow...
rbiemer
Unabashed Amateur
What about ths idea: one can upload x number of photos per day but only one shows up in the "recent photos" thumbnails? "x" = 20 or 5 or whatever. As the owner of the photos, the poster picks one as the representative pic of the group of images. This wouldn't overwhelm the "recent photos" and, I think, would give all of us a spot on the gallery front page.
The other thought I have about this; make the number of "random photos" thumbnails equal the number of thumbnails of "recent photos".
Rob
The other thought I have about this; make the number of "random photos" thumbnails equal the number of thumbnails of "recent photos".
Rob