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I am taking some vacations from my Kievs, to go back towards the fixed lens rangefinders, from which I have a respectable dusted collection, and I am still buying here and there.

Now what is the connection between this, me, and our respected member and RFF friend Trius? If you happen to know a bit both of us, take some moments to guess.

Yeap, the legendary Olympus 35SP.

Both me and Trius agree that this is the most serious candidate for the award winining optics among the fixed lens rangefinders. Of course, as much as I am concerned I have not conducted nor a kitchen test, nor even used all the most serious contenders. So I am speaking here rather from intuition, after seeing the results of the SP along the years.

Trius, on the other hand is to my opinion a much more trustable source, and according to his posts several times I had the happy opportunity to measure his deep knowledge.

But along the short time I have been dwelling at this neighbourhood, I have publicly slandered the Oly SP for its Exposure Index scale at the viewfinder, for its untasty Program, and a bit for its shake and noise at the act of public execution. With a great spirit of tolerance, Trius never discussed these complaints, as far as I remember, but underlined my appreciation of the SP optics.

Now, the Oly SP optics will be contended in my ranch in an ugly fight: Against the Yashica Lynx 14e, at widest apertures, at night streets mostly, with Neopan 1600. Light metering will be done with a great spot meter.

Now, why am I doing it beyond some sadist deviation?

Its due to a practial problem. The Lynx 14 is biggie and heavy and for this sole reason I have been looking among what I have for what could be a smaller and lighter camera to take for some opportunities in which the size and weight of the Lynx will be an overkill.

Thus for example, at a day in which I know beforehand I will be shooting at evening and night time, the Lynx 14 and a spot meter will be used. But at other opportunities in which I may have a full day available and this means other cameras too, the Oly SP f/1.7 is the best compromise I can imagine by now to replace the f/1.4 of the Lynx

It should be said that while the Lynx 14 optics were formally and outspokenly designed for low light and 1.4 respectability, the Oly SP at its max f/1.7 is a mystery.

Why f/1.7 instead of conceeding it the mercy of an f/2 ? For the simple reason that at a full stop difference from the Lynx, it will be too much of a difference for my needs, despite the fact that to my modest knowledge, for a lens not specially prepared for f/1.7, the image degradation between f/1.7 and f/2 can be significant.

On the other hand, my SP has a better viewfinder and patch than my Lynx 14.

Therefore it will be a sort of an unfair battle, with the SP as a respectable underdog. Make your bets, and the results will be shown within 2 months.
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Cheers,
Ruben
 
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Ruben:

You honour me! Yes, I am a strong proponent of the 35SP. I will stand up for its EV system as I have found it quite practical and that the lack of additional information (aperture, shutter speed) in the VF to not be an issue for me. After all, an OM-1 has even less information in the viewfinder, yet I can't recall anyone complaining!

As to the untasty program, well, I can't really comment. I don't use the program mode much, but when I have, I have found that exposures are very accurate. When you combine that capability with the spot meter which can refine exposure even more, I believe it to be a useful tool. It's funny you bring this up, as I was just thinking of using one of my SPs tomorrow (Saturday) in auto mode for at least half a roll of film, and seeing what I thought. I can't imagine using it exclusively, as I love the ability to shoot with priority on the aperture so as to control DOF. But in some situations, auto might be a good thing to have.

As to the vibration and noise at time of exposure, well I have to agree it is not perfect, not up to the standard set by the other features of the 35SP. I have not noticed a real problem with vibration, as I have successful shot handheld at 1/8s, and had acceptable results at 1/4s. I think the vibration is exaggerated in our minds.

As to the sound, there is a somewhat more sharp and metallic sound than some other RFs. Yet it is still a quiet camera. What it lacks in comparison to other leaf shutter RFs is due to the particular Seikosha shutter of the 35SP. For example, my Olympus 35LC is quieter, as is the RC, XA, etc.

You mention the size versus the Lynx. In my mind, the 35SP is perfect in terms of size and heft. Its dimensions are nearly identical to an M, though it is not as heavy. It is still substantial, and I find it easy to carry it and work with it for long periods, especially with a Gordy wrist strap. My 35LC gets hardly any work largely due to this.

Finally, as to the lens, I find it quite nice, though I should probably do some test shots at f1.7 and closely examine the results. I know I have made may shots wide open and have never noticed anything nasty, but really I don't do too much "pixel peeping" and critical examination. I just make the pictures.

I will be very interested in how you get on with the SP. f1.7 is only 2/3 stops slower than 1.4 which may be significant in a few situations, but not so many as to prompt me to accept the extra size and weight of the Lynx. But if the Yashica 1.4 lens significantly better wide open than the Zuiko, that would be a different story.

Warm regards.
 
Thank you Earl for your attention.

I will throw some points about your post, not necessarily by order of importance. You surprised me a bit by telling that an f/1.7 is a 2/3 increase from f/1.4 I thought till now it was only HALF increase.

I still remember from older times a thread about the Lynx 14 in which its lens capability at f/1.4 was demonstrated, showing more than a decent performance. And I am sure you know the lens were specially built for low light and f/1.4.

This is not the case with the Olympus SP, which may surpass by far the Lynx at f/2.8 onwards, but demmanding from it an equal or better performance at f/1.7 than a Lynx = it will be a great surprise.

As for the noise and shake, after owning two Lynxes, you can rest in peace as they are not quiet cameras. The Oly is more of a shaker and noisy one but let's remember that the Lynxes enjoy of a thick leather case, while finding today an Oly case... well I have never seen such.

Nevertheless, I have manually sewed a tight leather case for the Oly, and added a soft release button paded with leather between the top of shutter button and the basis of the softie. Thus I have considerably reduced the noise and shake and at least in terms of noise both of my contenders are equal.

Nevertheless, on behalf of other folks, I should give my feeling that there should be some variations of noise and shake between the different SPs as between the different Lynxes.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
Ruben: As to the difference in stops between the lens speeds, it depends on how you calculate it. 1.7^2 / 1.4^2 or 1.4^2 / 1.7^2. I chose the worst case scenario, so I may be wrong.

I agree with adding the soft release, and I forgot to mention that. I have one permanently on one of my SPs; I need to order some more from Tom so that I can have them for most of my cameras.

As for the case, yes, that would help. I do not use cases with them, but perhaps I will try that.

I have no doubt about the lens on the Lynx. If I ever come across a Lynx that I can buy, I will do so. I know that I love using the Zuiko 50/1.4 on an OM in dim light conditions.
 
Hi Reuben, In knowing of your deep interest of the mechinics of a camera. Here is a thread that goes way back to 2004. Our own beloved Brian Sweeny states that the sharpness of the Oly SP is probably the best, but the shutter mechanism is basicly a poor design. He rated the mechanics of the GIII the best & most reliable. So with that I'm quite pleased with my Canonet. I guess what I'm saying is that I am willing to sacrifice sharpness for superior mechanics. Here is the thread. An oldie but a goodie.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2576
 
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