Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
It does resemble the early Orion a little bit, with the focus helical thread showing around the edges when you turn it to close focus, but there's no focus scale or DOF scale on it, and the part that hits the RF cam is a thicker ring. More like the Cook & Perkins adapter
I'll share a picture of it later, I'm sure Brian would be interested to see it 😉
I'll share a picture of it later, I'm sure Brian would be interested to see it 😉
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TenEleven
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There was also a (pre)wartime adapter made by the brits. Cook and Perkins I believe. But it says so on the front (instead of a focus scale) so it's not that either I guess. It does fit your description though.
I once saw one one evilBay for about 150 bucks and did not jump on it. Still kicking myself today...
I once saw one one evilBay for about 150 bucks and did not jump on it. Still kicking myself today...
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
It's exactly like the Cook & Perkins, but without any markings
Why, "That's just a decent, if not amazing condition Opton Biogon.."
Is the diameter of the rear of the lens modified compared to a standard Biogon so as to not conflict with the RF cam?
TenEleven
Well-known
The diameter is the same from what I can tell, but the rangefinder coupling linkage (claw) has been removed, and that was what interfered with the RF cam if the lens was mounted into an adapter.Is the diameter of the rear of the lens modified compared to a standard Biogon so as to not conflict with the RF cam?
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Dralowid
Michael
I wonder, does anyone have a Cook &Perkins accessories catalogue from the '50s/'60s?
They made a lot of handy stuff. I used to have the adapter shown above but it went many years ago. I still have a rather poor example of the f3.5 Elmar lens hood that doubles as an aperture ring.. I know they made focus testers for ltn lenses, an Ablon type template and I don't know what else?

They made a lot of handy stuff. I used to have the adapter shown above but it went many years ago. I still have a rather poor example of the f3.5 Elmar lens hood that doubles as an aperture ring.. I know they made focus testers for ltn lenses, an Ablon type template and I don't know what else?

Räuber
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Finally I got this one. Lusted for one a long time now. A Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 1,4/55 (M42). This thing is huge and radioactive. 🥳 I'm very interested in comparing it to the later Pancolar 1,4/50 or my Mamiya 1,4/55.
Pancolar 1,4 | zeissikonveb.de
Pancolar 55 mm f/1.4 Pancolar 75 mm f/1.4 Carl Zeiss Jena

quilts
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Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Handy stuff indeed, I have a Periflex copy of their LTM focus tester.I wonder, does anyone have a Cook &Perkins accessories catalogue from the '50s/'60s?
They made a lot of handy stuff. I used to have the adapter shown above but it went many years ago. I still have a rather poor example of the f3.5 Elmar lens hood that doubles as an aperture ring.. I know they made focus testers for ltn lenses, an Ablon type template and I don't know what else?
nhchen
Nathan
I saw this on the yahoo Japan auctions. (382) カメラレンズ セット R.LEMASSON BREVETS ... - Yahoo!オークション
A set of Som Berthoit lenses that seemed to have both Leica screw and contax mounts. Probably only rangefinder coupled for the Leica and just scale focus on Contax. I wonder why other manufacturers didn’t try this, would be interesting to try out. Sold for a large amount, must be collectable.
A set of Som Berthoit lenses that seemed to have both Leica screw and contax mounts. Probably only rangefinder coupled for the Leica and just scale focus on Contax. I wonder why other manufacturers didn’t try this, would be interesting to try out. Sold for a large amount, must be collectable.
Mark240590
Soviet Shooter
Miles.
Beamsplitter
Likely for the original Russar.Unknown factory 20mm finder. There seems to be scant info on the interwebs about these.
I’ll try it on my Zorki 3 & Russar instead of that 90’s Tube TV set that came with it.
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Mark240590
Soviet Shooter
lukx
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Congrats, very cool lens. Show us some photos with it.View attachment 4853416View attachment 4853417
Finally I got this one. Lusted for one a long time now. A Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 1,4/55 (M42). This thing is huge and radioactive. 🥳 I'm very interested in comparing it to the later Pancolar 1,4/50 or my Mamiya 1,4/55.
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Pancolar 1,4 | zeissikonveb.de
Pancolar 55 mm f/1.4 Pancolar 75 mm f/1.4 Carl Zeiss Jenazeissikonveb.de
TenEleven
Well-known
I guess this is less about the lens (a Fujinon 50/1.2 in Leica thread mount) and more about ... what people do to such a rare and expensive item.
When I first tried this lens on film, my first impression was: "Gee, the focus shift is TERRIBLE on that one, clearly f/1.2 was too much of a stretch in 1950..." Then I did some more testing with a loaned auto-collimator. I found out yes, there is a bit of focus shift, but more importantly the lens back-focused at f/1.2 already.
Take it apart - look at the shim really closely this time. Yup. Sanding marks on one side of the bespoke brass washer. Uneven (at a slight angle), too. Which is why the focus felt a bit strange - the lens sat slightly askew to its focus mount. Bad words were said. As much as it broke my heart I had to sand the washer more to be even. Then the copper shim you can see on the lens in the first picture I re-manufactured from a junked 85/2.0 Sonnar which had just the right thickness at 0.02mm. Thus the issue was resolved and the lens focuses smoothly and correctly - with the calibration that Fuji's engineers intended - once again!



However, who in their right mind sands a very expensive and rare lens to make it "work" on their digital camera? Cripes!
When I first tried this lens on film, my first impression was: "Gee, the focus shift is TERRIBLE on that one, clearly f/1.2 was too much of a stretch in 1950..." Then I did some more testing with a loaned auto-collimator. I found out yes, there is a bit of focus shift, but more importantly the lens back-focused at f/1.2 already.
Take it apart - look at the shim really closely this time. Yup. Sanding marks on one side of the bespoke brass washer. Uneven (at a slight angle), too. Which is why the focus felt a bit strange - the lens sat slightly askew to its focus mount. Bad words were said. As much as it broke my heart I had to sand the washer more to be even. Then the copper shim you can see on the lens in the first picture I re-manufactured from a junked 85/2.0 Sonnar which had just the right thickness at 0.02mm. Thus the issue was resolved and the lens focuses smoothly and correctly - with the calibration that Fuji's engineers intended - once again!



However, who in their right mind sands a very expensive and rare lens to make it "work" on their digital camera? Cripes!
Räuber
Well-known
A Fujinon 50/1,2 in LTM mount??? This one is rare. Pictures please!!!
TenEleven
Well-known
Of the lens? From the lens?A Fujinon 50/1,2 in LTM mount??? This one is rare. Pictures please!!!
The latter will have to wait a bit because due to the above, I got a lot of out of focus pictures... 😕
Räuber
Well-known
Pictures of the lens would be great. And since I‘m interested in technical specs could you take some measurements too? I could find no source online mentioning the length or diameter of the Fujinon. I‘m interested in how large the lens appears mounted on a Leica too.
@TenEleven Tears of Joy that it is back working properly again!
And would appreciate pictures of and with the lens here!
And would appreciate pictures of and with the lens here!
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