Kent
Finally at home...
Even as a NEX-Fan I have to admit that that Cron 35 looks great on that X-E1!
Using Leica M lens, X-Pro1/XE-1 or NEX6/7?
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roundg
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Thanks. This a version 3, Canada Summciron 35mm. It's a stellar performer and And its current price is still affordable.
raphaelaaron
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congrats on your decision.
i'd be interested in some test shots with that setup. i skipped over the Xpro1, but the XE-1 intrigues me. I'd like to see some images with Leica glass.
i'd be interested in some test shots with that setup. i skipped over the Xpro1, but the XE-1 intrigues me. I'd like to see some images with Leica glass.
2WK
Rangefinder User
I feel confident that Fuji will add focus peaking to the X's with a firmware update.
BMacW
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I have sony nex 5n, owned nex7, considered buying nex6 before I settled on X-E1 as a back up for my M9 and to use with my M lenses.
After seeing the phase detect pixel based digital split image manual focus implementation, I returned the X-E1, and here is the logic.
Before that feature was unearthed, I was very confident that X-E1 will get peaking via FW update. (looks like this will be the case). So that's no big deal, and as a back up for M lenses, I think the IQ from XE1 is much better (apart from the stupid LR raw support).
BUT here is the thing, NEX 6 has phase detect pixels, X-E1 does not. So as other companies implement peaking following Sony, it's not hard to imagine that Sony will/can borrow the digital split image function from Fuji and adapte it on NEX6.
Sad to say this 3 months old Fuji will never get that feature....
As of now I'm taking the wait and see strategy. We are really close to a perfect mirrorless camera for manual focus lens.
After seeing the phase detect pixel based digital split image manual focus implementation, I returned the X-E1, and here is the logic.
Before that feature was unearthed, I was very confident that X-E1 will get peaking via FW update. (looks like this will be the case). So that's no big deal, and as a back up for M lenses, I think the IQ from XE1 is much better (apart from the stupid LR raw support).
BUT here is the thing, NEX 6 has phase detect pixels, X-E1 does not. So as other companies implement peaking following Sony, it's not hard to imagine that Sony will/can borrow the digital split image function from Fuji and adapte it on NEX6.
Sad to say this 3 months old Fuji will never get that feature....
As of now I'm taking the wait and see strategy. We are really close to a perfect mirrorless camera for manual focus lens.
2WK
Rangefinder User
:^X-Pro2! I can feel it being assembled as I type this. 😀
roundg
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Agree. It's very close now.
Sadly that XE1/Xpro1 can't be upgrade to the digital split image focusing via firmware. The feature need the build in phase detection in CMOS. But hope (and I think they will) Fuji will add peaking to XE1/XPRo1.
I don't expect Fuji to announce a XE2 or XPro2 soon. 6month upgrading cycle for a high-end camera (and considering the money we put in the purchase =) is unfair to the users.
BMacW
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I agree it's very unfair to the users. In fact it's sickening. Clearly they rushed out the XE1 to head the holiday sales and photokina. It's not like they developed the second gen x-tran sensor in the past 2 months only.
And they don't have a good track record when it comes to upgrade cycle. X-E1 made enough X-Pro1 owners upset.
It's unfair? Why? Your camera still delivers what they promised when you purchased it. Do you expect them to just give you everything they ever add to a camera without you paying them ever again?
peter_n
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Unfair? These businesses are simply taking advantage of early adopters who have to have the latest thing. The compulsion to automatically upgrade as soon as a new phone/computer/camera becomes available is manna from heaven. 🙂
BMacW
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I KNEW this kind of comment will come out.
You are happy with your camera, good for you. I've been using M8 for a long time, so it's not like I'm always chasing the latest greatest gadgets.
In this case, people in this thread are looking for a camera to use with M lens or use it as a back up for M cameras. And THIS feature, phase detect pixel with digital split image, is a SIGNIFICANT improvement that Fuji should've implemented into X-E1. It's not like they don't know this is coming. Some of us just got the X-E1 shipment not too long ago.
Anyways, if you are only using Fuji cameras with their lenses, good for you. At least I have the luxury of returning my X-E1. Obviously, the camera produces great images. I got it despite of it's slow operation and lack of peaking. But this new feature on x100s is big enough, I will wait. I don't have $1400 dollars to throw around every 6 months.
nanthor
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If you plan on using M lenses on an X camera with the new Fuji sensor, be prepared to soon give up your lenses and film and Leica altogether. The Fuji lenses combined with the sensor are sooooooo good that you'll gasp when you open them up, and that's just the jpg's. Now that some of the major editing programs are supporting the new sensor design I can't imagine how much better the raw files will turn out. Combine this with the relatively low cost, good construction and AF of the lenses and you'll wonder why you bother with manual focus and non-Fuji lenses. Really.
Fuji owes you third party lens support?
Isn't it your fault for buying a camera that didn't have this feature in the first place? It's not like Fuji promised you something they didn't deliver in the X-E1. .
BMacW
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Okay, I give up. Talking to fanboys here....:bang:
lam
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Nokia 808 released with very old version of Symbian but that stellar 41mp Zeiss camera.. (6 years of development meant no windows mobile, no upgraded screen, all camera!)
Look how those sales are going :bang:
But it's ok. We love Apple, and they continuously empty our pockets with iPads' every 4 months, and if it weren't for contracts, they'd be producing iPhones at the same pace. 😀
Companies don't give a five about anything, other than producing profit at the expense of customers grief, because they will use the "innovation" card to stifle any objections... and I don't mind that.
Otherwise it'd just be Nikon/Canon per usual! SO adopt early, adopt alot, because lots of you went into the digital camp!
Not a fanboy crush at all... I'm just realistic of what to expect from camera manufacturers.
George61d
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I would recommend the voigtlander 28mm ultron with the x-pro1. It is not without its irks but the results are pleasing just the same. I wrote a quick look report at http://wideanglecafe.wordpress.com/...tlander-28mm1-9-ultron-with-the-fuji-x-pro-1/
Ron (Netherlands)
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According to Fuji that lens can't be used:
http://www.fujifilm.com/products/di...fujifilm_m_mount_adapter/compatibility_chart/
George61d
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It's the older LTM 1.9 that I am using and it works just fine
back alley
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some hardheadedness in this thread...
can't you guys see that both sides are right and wrong at the same time?
is it so hard to understand someone's disappointment at getting the latest camera and discovering that it is being usurped almost immediately by a younger model?
and it's should be clear that camera makers do not have consumers at their top level of priorities but that sales and constant improvement of both camera and sales is number 1 for them.
we all win and we all lose a little and all at the same time.
can't you guys see that both sides are right and wrong at the same time?
is it so hard to understand someone's disappointment at getting the latest camera and discovering that it is being usurped almost immediately by a younger model?
and it's should be clear that camera makers do not have consumers at their top level of priorities but that sales and constant improvement of both camera and sales is number 1 for them.
we all win and we all lose a little and all at the same time.