maddoc
... likes film again.
... last night, I have taken some photos with my cell-phone to demonstrate, how it looks like using the ANR glass inserts from betterscanning.com with the genuine Epson film-holder for 135 film. This is not meant as an advertisement for Epson or betterscanning, it is just to show how I do my scans with this scanner.
When I develop film myself, especially in winter with dry air the film bends a lot and the stripes inserted into the film holder look like this:
I think it is clear from this photo, that the film will be mostly out of focus when scanning. (The original plastic frames provided by Epson - not used anymore by me and not shown in this photo - do not hold the film flat, they just keep it in position.)
Using ANR glass inserts, the glass plates have to be firmly fixed in the Epson holder because the bending force of the film lifts them up. That's why the small pieces of rubber are for, they hold the plates in psoition. I have cutted small stripes out of a rubber ring and fixed them with double-sided adhesive tape.
The holder, ready for scanning looks like this:
Since the ANR plates have one side that looks like frosted glass (to prevent from newton rings), in this photo they look completely matte. In the upper right corner one can see that the side of the plates that faces towards the upper lid of the scanner has a normal mirror-like surface.
When scanning 120 (MF) film, I use the normal Epson holders, delivered with the scanner, and the film mounted looks like this:
I think the film is flat enough to be scanned this way.
Cheers,
Gabor
When I develop film myself, especially in winter with dry air the film bends a lot and the stripes inserted into the film holder look like this:
I think it is clear from this photo, that the film will be mostly out of focus when scanning. (The original plastic frames provided by Epson - not used anymore by me and not shown in this photo - do not hold the film flat, they just keep it in position.)
Using ANR glass inserts, the glass plates have to be firmly fixed in the Epson holder because the bending force of the film lifts them up. That's why the small pieces of rubber are for, they hold the plates in psoition. I have cutted small stripes out of a rubber ring and fixed them with double-sided adhesive tape.
The holder, ready for scanning looks like this:
Since the ANR plates have one side that looks like frosted glass (to prevent from newton rings), in this photo they look completely matte. In the upper right corner one can see that the side of the plates that faces towards the upper lid of the scanner has a normal mirror-like surface.
When scanning 120 (MF) film, I use the normal Epson holders, delivered with the scanner, and the film mounted looks like this:
I think the film is flat enough to be scanned this way.
Cheers,
Gabor
martin s
Well-known
Hey that's exactly what I need, now where do I get this in Germany? Thanks for the little review / comparison.
martin
martin
arthur sadowsky
Established
...could you upload any samples of your 35mm scans (preferably color film) with using Epson and ANR Glass Inserts?
And could you upload relatively large files so we can see the details??
Thank you in advance!
And could you upload relatively large files so we can see the details??
Thank you in advance!
punkromance
Poor art student
Well how about that.
Just so happened that when I was browsing the portrait thread I came across this little beauty and went on to research a bit about it.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=953297&postcount=125
There's some nice scans.
When I said research, it wasn't that extensive as it abruptly ended when I found out the price. But still..
Can this look (scanning the whole neg) be acheived with this set up?
Just so happened that when I was browsing the portrait thread I came across this little beauty and went on to research a bit about it.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=953297&postcount=125
There's some nice scans.
When I said research, it wasn't that extensive as it abruptly ended when I found out the price. But still..
Can this look (scanning the whole neg) be acheived with this set up?
marduk
Well-known
Question to those who scan 35mm film with Doug's ANR inserts: would you recommend getting the longer version of the inserts instead of the shorter one? The longer one has bigger coverage because it's used without Epson's original tab, but i don't know if it holds nicely.
spkennedy3000
www.simonkennedy.net
Punkromance - what set-up was used for those scans?
Colman
Established
I'd guess they used a glass holder for 4x5 or something like that - the Betterscanning people sell those as well.
maddoc
... likes film again.
I use the longer ones because the shorter ones were out of stock when I wanted to buy the ANR inserts. They don't hold really nicely, one has to "shim" the inserts with small pieces of rubber band to fix them. You can probably see it in my photos in the first photo of this thread.
Cheers,
Gabor
marduk
Well-known
Thanks. I have got the shorter ones and they are good. I couldn't have improved scanning quality more for $100. Doug is very helpful.