oftheherd
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Just spotted this. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Brochures..._Collectible&hash=item4611f3e8c3#ht_114wt_892
Check out the second photo of the brochure. A detachable focal plane shutter with speeds to 1/1000. Who knew? Also .75 for a film holder? I'll take 20 please.
The lenses seem a little expensive for the day.
Check out the second photo of the brochure. A detachable focal plane shutter with speeds to 1/1000. Who knew? Also .75 for a film holder? I'll take 20 please.
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Just spotted this. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Brochures..._Collectible&hash=item4611f3e8c3#ht_114wt_892
Check out the second photo of the brochure. A detachable focal plane shutter with speeds to 1/1000. Who knew? Also .75 for a film holder? I'll take 20 please.The lenses seem a little expensive for the day.
Voigtländer had a detachable Focal plane shutter in their program in the 20s for 6,5x9 and 9x12 - I´ve seen one by a German collector in working condition - but I think it´s nearly impossible to find one for a reasonable price!
The Compur shutters are working!
Cleaned and lubed them so they sound again like a big old cat behind the oven
The one with "all times the same" was very simple.
Under the time select wheel is a curved disk which moves a pin on an arm. this arm was sticky and ain´t moving or very very slow. Cleaned it - lubed it and we are back in buissnes.
As I couldn´t use these lenses on my Avus without changeing alot I´m thinking about a cam for them.
A Mono Rail cam or a Graflex Speed Grafic.
The Mono Rail will be full shiftable in any direction but the Graflex offers a focal plane shutter which give the possibility to use lenses without a shutter. Not sure which way to go
oftheherd
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Glad you got them all working. Good info on the repair. I'll keep that in the memory banks.
Life is kind of good when you have to make decisions on which lens to use where.
Life is kind of good when you have to make decisions on which lens to use where.
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So I found a solution for my lenses!
I bought a Voigtländer Bergheil 9x12.

Voigtländer Bergheil 9x12
by Michael Relguag, auf Flickr
To copy the bajonett mount for the other lenses isn´t a big job.
I bought a Voigtländer Bergheil 9x12.

Voigtländer Bergheil 9x12
by Michael Relguag, auf Flickr
To copy the bajonett mount for the other lenses isn´t a big job.
citizen99
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An excellent solution
.
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Wephota Ortho 25 Adonal
by Michael Relguag, auf Flickr
Avus Anastigmat 6,8 13,5cm

Wephota Ortho 25 Adonal (10)
by Michael Relguag, auf Flickr
Skopar 4,5 10,5cm + WW Focar 30

Wephota Ortho 25 Adonal (12)
by Michael Relguag, auf Flickr
Skopar 4,5 10,5cm
oftheherd
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Nice job on getting them to fit the Voigtlander! The lenses seem to work well except for the vignetting on the two 105 lenses. Were they designed to work on 6x9's without rise/fall - shift?
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Nice job on getting them to fit the Voigtlander! The lenses seem to work well except for the vignetting on the two 105 lenses. Were they designed to work on 6x9's without rise/fall - shift?
Both are the 4,5 10,5cm skopar from the 6,5x9cm Avus - the tree was taken with the WW focar 30 - which gives you a focal length of 90-85mm. The castle was taken shifted to get the bottom plate out of the way ;-)
It has it´s own character at infinity but it should work perfect for close focus - that will be something for the spring, when the flowers come back.
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Both are the 4,5 10,5cm skopar from the 6,5x9cm Avus - the tree was taken with the WW focar 30 - which gives you a foacl lenghth of 90-85mm. The castle was taken shifted to get the bottom plate out of the way ;-)
It has it´s own charkter at infinity but it should work perfekt for close focus - that will be something for the sring, when the fowers come back.
Even so they look good except for the vignetting. Even that gives them a sort of old time look.
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Was today a bit out playing with the "big" one at the Stubai valley
Voigtländer Avus 9x12
Avus Anastigmat 6,8 13,5cm
Wephota Ortho 25
Adonal

Wephota Ortho 25 Adonal (6)
by Michael Relguag, auf Flickr

Wephota Ortho 25 Adonal (8)
by Michael Relguag, auf Flickr

Wephota Ortho 25 Adonal (11)
by Michael Relguag, auf Flickr
Voigtländer Avus 9x12
Avus Anastigmat 6,8 13,5cm
Wephota Ortho 25
Adonal

Wephota Ortho 25 Adonal (6)
by Michael Relguag, auf Flickr

Wephota Ortho 25 Adonal (8)
by Michael Relguag, auf Flickr

Wephota Ortho 25 Adonal (11)
by Michael Relguag, auf Flickr
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I sure envy you the landscapes you have where you live. Nice photos.
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I sure envy you the landscapes you have where you live. Nice photos.
Thanks.
this cam is teaching me a lot and every shot is still a new experience. I tried to use the lens hood I use on the 6,5x9 Avus and it worked good - but together with the WW-Focar I get a small vignette - so I have to find a WW lenshood which fits - 29mm lens diameter.
Together with this orthochromatic film this lens delivers this look of the 20th where I´ve been searching for. This combination will stay!
Maybe this film works for the Bergehil too - hope to get it untill friday.
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Thanks.
this cam is teaching me a lot and every shot is still a new experience. I tried to use the lens hood I use on the 6,5x9 Avus and it worked good - but together with the WW-Focar I get a small vignette - so I have to find a WW lenshood which fits - 29mm lens diameter.
Together with this orthochromatic film this lens delivers this look of the 20th where I´ve been searching for. This combination will stay!
Maybe this film works for the Bergehil too - hope to get it untill friday.
Did you get the Bergheil yet? I just missed a giveaway price on one last week. I'm still crying. Not that I need it or anything. I've got something like 10 9x12 and only really like to use a couple when in the mood. Both are RF, one an Avus, the other a Recomar. I really need to use them more. Those large negatives are a pleasure.
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Yes the Bergheil arrived on Saturday.
Had the ushall failure with " all times the same - and was repaired in 10 min ;-)
Had no time to shoot pics from or with it - but I hope I can do some shots from her before the WE.
Had the ushall failure with " all times the same - and was repaired in 10 min ;-)
Had no time to shoot pics from or with it - but I hope I can do some shots from her before the WE.
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Voigtländer Bergheil 4. Serie
by Michael Relguag, auf Flickr
So here she is my Voigtländer Bergheil 9x12 4.series with Heliar 4,5 13,5cm - alpha + beta yellow filter and Haka Autoknips selftimer and longtime timer!
Tele Focar 8 and Wide Angel Focar 31 are on the way to me.
oftheherd
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Beautiful looking camera and accessories! Does that also take the series VI aux lenses as well? I know the VAG does but I'm not sure about Bergheil.
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Beautiful looking camera and accessories! Does that also take the series VI aux lenses as well? I know the VAG does but I'm not sure about Bergheil.
Do you mean the Focar 6?
No - Focar 6 has 29mm is for the Skopar / Heliar 4,5 10,5cm and some of the smaller/darker Voigtar lenses and maybe fit on the Avus Ansatigmat 6,8 13,5cm which has 29mm too.
oftheherd
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I was not familiar with the Focar aux lenses until you mentioned them and I googled them, but no, I was talking about Series VI, as in Series V or Series VII, and I think there was a Series VIII. Made by different manufacturers.
They are push on aux lenses or push on or screw in adapters that take Series VI aux lenses or filters. I have a tele and wide, giving probably about the equivalent of 100mm and 35mm respectively. I also have some filters and close up lenses.
They are push on aux lenses or push on or screw in adapters that take Series VI aux lenses or filters. I have a tele and wide, giving probably about the equivalent of 100mm and 35mm respectively. I also have some filters and close up lenses.
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Oh I see! I never used them und heard just less from this system. Maybe it is a specific US system?
The 6x9 Avus with the Skopar has a 29mm push fit and the 4,5 13,5 Skopar / Heliar have 36,8mm push fit
The Avus Anstigmat 6,8 13,5cm has 29mm too.

Voigtländer Prospekt 1930_5657 par Michael Relguag, bei ipernity
That's a list of the Focar / lens combinations from 1930.
The 6x9 Avus with the Skopar has a 29mm push fit and the 4,5 13,5 Skopar / Heliar have 36,8mm push fit
The Avus Anstigmat 6,8 13,5cm has 29mm too.

Voigtländer Prospekt 1930_5657 par Michael Relguag, bei ipernity
That's a list of the Focar / lens combinations from 1930.
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Uhr
by Michael Relguag, auf Flickr

Una glorie della industria italiana!
by Michael Relguag, auf Flickr

Pentacon Six TL
by Michael Relguag, auf Flickr
Voigtländer Bergheil 9x12
Heliar 4,5 13,5cm
Wephota Ortho 25
Adonal 1:100 11min 20°
Hoping for some better weather to go out for some more play this week!
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