Rob-F
Likes Leicas
There is the Nokton 58mm f/1.4 SL-II in Nikon AIS mount, Dave.
Well, that would make sense! If you want Nokton rendering, why not go with a Nokton. It's not quite the same focal length, but maybe 58mm is OK?
ferider
Veteran
What CK said. The Nikkor 50/1.8 is a spectacular lens. Mine is the older, shorter min. focus version, in all metal.
Basically renders like a Summicron v4:
Like Jamie wrote, the older 50/2 Nikkor is very good as well. More like an early rigid Summicron to my taste (mine is an AI converted Nikkor-H):
Neither lens was very expensive.
Cheers,
Roland.
Basically renders like a Summicron v4:



Like Jamie wrote, the older 50/2 Nikkor is very good as well. More like an early rigid Summicron to my taste (mine is an AI converted Nikkor-H):


Neither lens was very expensive.
Cheers,
Roland.
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
Sure! Thanks!
Well, let's see if this link works:
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http://www.l-camera-forum.com/uploads/monthly_06_2015/post-24217-0-14048700-1434623033.jpg
Love the photo of the cherry tree, Dave!
kxl
Social Documentary
I have given up on one that is close to a 50 Summilux. My 1.8 lenses do well (sorta) but the bokeh is a bit harsh.
Dave - Have you looked at the Sigma 50mm/1.4 ART? I think it actually compares well against the 50 Summilux. IMO, it is the best of the current line of Sigma ART lenses. It is well worth a look. Of course, the OTUS will probably blow it away, but I assume you're not looking to spend that kind of cheddar.
Found this comparison.
CK Dexter Haven
Well-known
Thanks, Roland. Here are a couple of my Series E snaps — first roll with this lens:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ckdexterhaven/3464077643/sizes/o/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ckdexterhaven/3464077369/sizes/o/
Any vignetting is probably post-exposure....
I also have the version with the metal ring around the barrel.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ckdexterhaven/3464077643/sizes/o/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ckdexterhaven/3464077369/sizes/o/
Any vignetting is probably post-exposure....
I also have the version with the metal ring around the barrel.
Canyongazer
Canyongazer
"Of course, the Otus will probably blow it away."
Keith, I'd be surprised. The Sigma is a very, very good 50...I doubt anything can blow it away. If, in fact, the Otus is "better" I'd guess it to be an incremental, close to indiscernible, advantage.
But, that is a guess. I don't know 'cause I don't own both and it's damn unlikely I ever will.
Keith, I'd be surprised. The Sigma is a very, very good 50...I doubt anything can blow it away. If, in fact, the Otus is "better" I'd guess it to be an incremental, close to indiscernible, advantage.
But, that is a guess. I don't know 'cause I don't own both and it's damn unlikely I ever will.
Sample (on film) of Nokton 58mm f/1.4... I was going to suggest checking the RFF gallery for others, but I see only my own there!

Godfrey
somewhat colored
I'll have to compare the Nokton 50/1.5 ASPH vs the Nikkor 50mm f/1.2 AI-S. I have both, and can compare them on the same Leica M-P sensor.
The Nikkor similarly has a very lovely rendering signature.
My willing model allowed me to make 8 exposures from wide open to f/16 with both the Nokton 50/1.5 and Nikkor 50/1.2 ...
comparo B&W
comparo Color
Be sure to size the window so the images show at 1:1 ... They're about 20" wide at 72dpi.
Nokton on the left, Nikkor on the right.
Wide open, they have a somewhat different look. They become more similar as you get down into the f/5.6-f/8 range.
Notice how much vignetting the Nikkor does on the Rayqual Nikon F to Leica M adapter... That lens' rear element is enormous and needs a wider flange than Leica M has. It gives you an idea of the challenge of designing the Noctilux.
G
f16sunshine
Moderator
Sample (on film) of Nokton 58mm f/1.4... I was going to suggest checking the RFF gallery for others, but I see only my own there!
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I'm not sure how well it does or does not renderer like the Nokton 50mm f1.5 RF version but... the Reflex 58mm Nokton sure looks great.
Nice image Doug!
dave lackey
Veteran
My willing model allowed me to make 8 exposures from wide open to f/16 with both the Nokton 50/1.5 and Nikkor 50/1.2 ...
comparo B&W
comparo Color
Be sure to size the window so the images show at 1:1 ... They're about 20" wide at 72dpi.
Nokton on the left, Nikkor on the right.
Wide open, they have a somewhat different look. They become more similar as you get down into the f/5.6-f/8 range.
Notice how much vignetting the Nikkor does on the Rayqual Nikon F to Leica M adapter... That lens' rear element is enormous and needs a wider flange than Leica M has. It gives you an idea of the challenge of designing the Noctilux.
G
Wow, Godfrey, just had a second to check in and I am stunned. My eyes find both lenses comparable with easing results all around.
That is so cool to see your results! Thanks!
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
Thanks, Roland. Here are a couple of my Series E snaps — first roll with this lens:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ckdexterhaven/3464077643/sizes/o/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ckdexterhaven/3464077369/sizes/o/
Any vignetting is probably post-exposure....
I also have the version with the metal ring around the barrel.
I LOVE those Nikon Series E lenses... SOOOOO much bang for the buck!
Sample (on film) of Nokton 58mm f/1.4... I was going to suggest checking the RFF gallery for others, but I see only my own there!
It's not posted in the gallery but here's a shot I took with my Nokton 58mm F1.4. Very nice lens.

Godfrey
somewhat colored
Wow, Godfrey, just had a second to check in and I am stunned. My eyes find both lenses comparable with easing results all around.
That is so cool to see your results! Thanks!![]()
They're definitely more similar at f/2 and smaller openings. Wide open they diverge some .. Of course, the Nikkor is f/1.2 and the Nokton f/1.5 so some difference between is a certainty. The Nokton is slightly smoother at f4-5.6, reminds me a lot of an older series Summilux 50. Regardless, both of these render nicely ... and they are both fussy as heck to get the focus plane JUST RIGHT wide open. The joy and the pain of ultra-fast lenses.
I usually set the aperture to two stops down from wide open for average shooting with relatively shallow DoF, and f/8 for deep DoF. Those are sweet spots on most lenses.
G
lewis44
Well-known
Nokton 58mm f1.4 AIs.
Had this one when I was Shooting Nikon. Loved it.
Had this one when I was Shooting Nikon. Loved it.
Thanks, Andy!I'm not sure how well it does or does not render like the Nokton 50mm f1.5 RF version but... the Reflex 58mm Nokton sure looks great.
Nice image Doug!
Nice looking blossoms, Jon, with a lot of bokeh to examine.
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