What happened to my "girls in camera shirts thread"...it's gone/deleted/vanished

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People are missing the point (other than Michael, the OP) - it's not the images themselves that were "sexist" according to Stephen Gandy's post. it's the comments within the thread.

Why Stephen and/or other mods didn't just delete the post and, perhaps, warn the individuals involved is beyond me.

We're all adults here and should be able to conduct ourselves accordingly. I'm just surprised at such a ham fisted way of dealing with all of this.

In the meantime, can someone pass me a shotgun because I've got a fly in my home that I need to get rid of . . .

Dave
 
There were a couple of tacky fairly sexist comments made in the female M shooters poll thread just after it kicked off ... but it's still there!
 
There was also a thread in the travel forum about travelling in Syria and Lebanon that was removed for no apparent reason. The thread contained about 20 replies and they were all about travel advice. IS there some kind of hidden agenda?
 
I really do wish Stephen had just deleted the offensive posts. Honestly, half the photos posted here are of pretty women with their clothes on. And a lot of the other half probably contains good looking guys.

As for the idea that those pictures were sexist and objectifying, that seems a little over the top to me. I mean, the pics were vaguely racy, the way maybe a billboard at a bus stop is racy. But really those pics were not much different from the portraits the men here might post of their pretty wives or GFs, out of a sense of love and respect for them. I mean, are we going to get all worked up about Raid's pictures of his family, or Helen's self-portraits, because they contain nice-looking people? Or how about Frank Petronio--his pics are much more sexually charged than Michael's camera-shirt shots, are we going to declare his entire gallery sexist?
 
Hey michaelbialecki,
can you please post these photos to your flickr account.
Thanks & cheers

BTW.
It seams that some of the guys in the RFF are jealous because you live in BKK and have the opportunity to shot nice photos.
 
As a brand new member (first post) and having never seen this obviously offensive porography I can only say how safe I feel here knowing that so many other people are deciding what is and what is not a suitable photographic subject for me to view.

"Most people are afraid of new ideas...I'm afraid of the same old ones!"
 
If you want to see sexism spend some time in the gallery and see which images get the most views but not necessarily any constructive comments aside from the odd sn!gger. The crappiest pic with a little female cleavage will garner far more views than a genuinely interesting photograph ... nine times out of ten!

I remember a pic in the gallery of a young female in a pair hugging tights that was titled 'camel toe!' ... I actually complained about that to management via PM but was ignored! 🙄

[edit] ... What a laugh, when I posted the word s****** (and again) above the forum censoring software removed the last part of the word ... oh my god where am I?
 
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He probably deleted the entire post because it was garnering sexist comments and would continue to do so even if the offending posts where removed. I can sympathize with him not wanting to babysit the thread from now to eternity. It's sad that some people can't self moderate but that's just the way things are... maybe after this incident people will get the hint and NEXT time it won't be an issue 🙂
 
Philly said:
Without going over the top, yes, it is.

Take a look at How many female leica m users here!🙂
Would you like: How many black leica m users here?

Or here: Poll: Guy or Gal?
How about: Poll: Christian or Jew?
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alright, the correct title would have been: "mammals in camera t-shirts." wait no, that would probably discriminate invertebrates and birds and and and.

women are women, black people are black people and jews are jews, there is nothing wrong with them being that! he made that series about women in camera shirts. he can make a series about black people wearing red helmets. or jews dancing. or blind people singing. there is nothing racist about that. if he had made a reportage about poor people in bangladesh, no one would have said "oy that's racist you only took photos of poor people in bangladesh, at least call it 'people' and not 'poor people in bangladesh'".

I don't think michael had anything discriminating in mind.

...and I don't really feel like getting in a serious discussion right now, sorry. I'm out of this.
 
I guess we should expect certain responses from certain crowds. This community is extremely hypersensitive and we should have known this would be the result. No big surprise. Sort of like how one would expect me, a 24 year old, to attempt humor when in the midst of controversy.
 
I wonder what conclusion you all expect.
Thread being back or "sorry we were wrong" or what?
I don't think it will lead anywhere.
Everybody expressed their opinion, what else.

PS I don't like what has happened but this thread is in no way right thing to do.

By the way, I love you all anyway o/
 
SimonSawSunlight said:
alright, the correct title would have been: "mammals in camera t-shirts." wait no, that would probably discriminate invertebrates and birds and and and.

women are women, black people are black people and jews are jews, there is nothing wrong with them being that! he made that series about women in camera shirts. he can make a series about black people wearing red helmets. or jews dancing. or blind people singing. there is nothing racist about that. if he had made a reportage about poor people in bangladesh, no one would have said "oy that's racist you only took photos of poor people in bangladesh, at least call it 'people' and not 'poor people in bangladesh'".

I don't think michael had anything discriminating in mind.

...and I don't really feel like getting in a serious discussion right now, sorry. I'm out of this.
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Yes. A black person is black in the same way that a white person is white in the same way that the female form is attractive to (most) males in the same way that the male figure is attractive to (most) females.

How a thread of girls in camera shirts can be seen as sexist is so far beyond me.
 
fdigital... it was not the topic of the thread apparently, but the comments made within the thread... AGAIN, your gun is pointed at the wrong target my friend.

one more time... it was not the topic of the thread, but the comments made within the thread that elicited deletion.

(not that I agree with the result, but I cant help pointing out to you that you are endlessly harping on the wrong issue)
 
I enjoyed the thread if only because it actually was about photos, real images.

Oh well, nothing lasts forever.
 
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