What have you just BOUGHT?

Dear Board,

I have to stop eventually, and this might be my last purchase for a while. ;)

I read some fairly positive reviews of the Vivitar 3800N and decided that for the price of 2 rolls of B&W film plus shipping I had to at least give the camera a try. It arrived from Goodwill in perfect condition and fully operational except for the exposure counter. It counts the frames but sometimes depending on how I am holding the camera the counter digits disappear. But the meter is spot on, and the finder is clear, clean, and bright.

It's probably the nicest plastic camera I own. I have a roll of film in it, and I am actually looking forward to see what comes out of it with the native Vivitar lens. If I want to try other focal lengths, I have a few Pentax K mount lenses and more than a few Tamron Adaptall 2 lenses to use with it.

Regards,

Tim Murphy

Harrisburg PA :)

Vivitar 3800n by Tim Murphy, on Flickr
I might be mistaken, but I think that this is another of those cameras built on the standardized chassis that Cosina provided to several other manufacturers. Perhaps the best known is the Nikon FM10. It's the same innards that are at the heart of all the Bessa rangefinders, so it's a tough little camera, or should be.
 
Posted by Alpsman:

" Why did I do this to me?
Now I have to paint all my lens hoods :-( "

Well I certainly hope I had something to do with it, Mwahahahahaha :devilish:

Anyway, thanks for posting the results. How "unshiny" is the Italeri paint? All I need it for is to umm, "de-shine" some of the cheap, modern, metal lens hoods I have. I'm not absolutely sure they have be as black as the Musuo paint as well as being "matt".
Well, you asked for a color, "JeffS7444" mentioned this Musou color, I searched on the Internet, the general representative for Europe is in Vienna, not far from me and so one thing led to another and I couldn't help but try it out.
The only one who is "to blame" is me because once again I was too weak to resist an incentive.
Sometimes it's like a curse to have to try everything, to want to know everything, to want to do everything. But there could be worse things that I have to live with.
No matter.
As you can see from the two pictures, the Italeri color, top picture, is just as "black" and "flat" as the original Nikon color in the bottom picture. It is "black" and does not reflect. I think you can live with it. And I don't think that this color will negatively affect the pictures taken with this lens hood. In the end it is better than a reflective lens hood or no lens hood at all.
And if you convert the price, including shipping costs, to the quantity, then the Musou paint is even cheaper than the Italei paint.

And by the way, "black paint" is now a new term for me ;-)

Wishes for spill-free painting: Dieter
 
The Musou black paint arrived.
Of course I have to try it out immediately.

The first pix is a 3D-printed hood which was painted first with the ITALERI flat black.
The "grey" black is the Italeri paint, the deep dark flat black is the Musou
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The second pix is a original Nikon hood with the original Nikon paint. The dark black is the Mosou black.
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I did not make a scientific test, nor did I try out the scratch resistant.
But it can clearly be seen how black the Mosou black is.
Interesting, that the Italeri flat black is nearly exact the same black than the Nikon black. In the pix it seems to be different, but in reality there is no different.

Why did I do this to me?
Now I have to paint all my lens hoods :-(

GFA: Dieter
Wow, that first hood with the second black is straight out of The Restaurant At The End of the Universe!

From here: Spacecraft

"Marvin was able to touch the surface of the ship and open up an entry hatchway, and the interior of the ship was completely black. There were black controls labelled in black, on a black background, with a little light that lit up black, which made it difficult to control the ship. The ceiling and walls of the swaying cabin were also black, as well as the seats, control panel, the instruments and the little screws that held them in place. The thin tufted nylon floor covering was black, and when a corner of the foam underlay was lifted up that was also discovered to be was black."
 
Wow, that first hood with the second black is straight out of The Restaurant At The End of the Universe!

From here: Spacecraft

"Marvin was able to touch the surface of the ship and open up an entry hatchway, and the interior of the ship was completely black. There were black controls labelled in black, on a black background, with a little light that lit up black, which made it difficult to control the ship. The ceiling and walls of the swaying cabin were also black, as well as the seats, control panel, the instruments and the little screws that held them in place. The thin tufted nylon floor covering was black, and when a corner of the foam underlay was lifted up that was also discovered to be was black."
Douglas Adams' imagination was further away than the restaurant at the end of the universe ;-)
It's been a long time since I read the book, but it really gave my brain a boost and expanded my imagination.
How can someone come up with something like that?
 
Douglas Adams' imagination was further away than the restaurant at the end of the universe ;-)
It's been a long time since I read the book, but it really gave my brain a boost and expanded my imagination.
How can someone come up with something like that?
Back in the day, the ingestion of certain recreational substances could have that effect! 🤣
 
A small slave flash that can be triggered by another flash. Actually it was meant to give your point & shoot cameras, that don’t have connection to an external flash, more power.


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Dieter, how smelly is the Musou paint? I watched most of a comparison video by a woman who compared it to Black 4.0, Black 3.0, a cheap black and "Bunning's Black". She said Black 4.0 was thick and difficult to apply, the others went on easily enough. Later she did a scrape test, first with a fingernail and then with a pallet knife the first three started to come off with the fingernail but the cheap and Bunning's only showed a scrape mark. They all came off with the pallet knife. She found the musou to be really stinky.
 
Dieter, how smelly is the Musou paint? I watched most of a comparison video by a woman who compared it to Black 4.0, Black 3.0, a cheap black and "Bunning's Black". She said Black 4.0 was thick and difficult to apply, the others went on easily enough. Later she did a scrape test, first with a fingernail and then with a pallet knife the first three started to come off with the fingernail but the cheap and Bunning's only showed a scrape mark. They all came off with the pallet knife. She found the musou to be really stinky.
Good morning seany65!
I don't know the video or this lady. But there's a lot of nonsense on YouTube just to generate clicks. If the title says "shocking" then I don't click on it at all. And when I see how people behave in some videos or how much they are knowing what they are doing in the subject matter, then they should really be punished for spreading nonsense over the world.
anyway.

Well, I didn't do a sniff test. Also, I'm not into solvents and you can't achieve any useful effect with acrylic paint when sniffing ;-)

If acrylic paint is too thick, you can thin it with water. Just like you can thin almost any paint with the appropriate solvent if it's too thick.

You can actually scrape off any paint with a knife.
I confess, I haven't done a fingernail test either. Since I applied the paint to the inside of the lens hood, it didn't seem vital to me, since I rarely use a knife or fingernail to work on the inside of my lens hood.

The durability of a paint depends very much on the roughness of the surface to be painted and also on whether it is free of grease.

In the end, it is always up to you whether you do something or not and whether you do it right or wrong.
My lens hoods are now deep black on the inside. That's enough for me. Everything else will be revealed by daily use and time. Also the amount of the 100 ml will last to the end of my days. So I always can repaint my lens hoods.

PS: I've been browsing the internet a bit and I think I've found this lady. Just seeing how she uses (or rather abuses) the poor brush tells me enough to stop the video.
 
I bought a an absolutely, like-new Konica III camera for 150 Won the other day!
The old Konica rangefinders are really great cameras. Worked well, easy to use, very good lenses. I have several Konica III cameras. I've adapted a lens from a Konica III to use on my Nikon Z6. A great lens, fun to use lens.
 
I just received in the mail from an ebay seller a Sigma 10-22 zoom for my Lumix L1. The guy had no way of testing the lens and listed it for $60.00. He did not know if it worked or not. So, I took a chance and the lens is in perfect working order and cosmetically in beautiful condition. A zoom this wide should be a lot of fun to shoot with.
 
I bought this Praktica for £10.

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Well actually I didn't buy it for the camera but for what it came with.

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All lubricants are dry. I heard it is a difficult lens to work on so probably I will have to find someone who is willing to work on it.

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I also had to break it to my wife somehow.

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I've been bottom fishing some lately. A guy advertised a bunch of cameras, "mainly for display," for $65. There were about 20 of them and I'm still going through evaluating them. Indeed I think these were on display -- he said he had a camera store at one point -- so many of them are just inoperative, sadly, either from sitting around or they were dead to begin with. But there are a few that make it worthwhile, like a cute little Rival-35 (rebadged Baldini), an interesting Certo Dollina III (worst viewfinder I have ever looked through! But a cool and unusual camera), and the pick of the litter, a Retina IIIC. Also a Nikon Coolpix L20 digital p&s. Some are projects that may ultimately prove hopeless.

Also, from another guy, a Canon AE-1 Program with 50/1.8, Sakar 28/2.8 and three zooms -- Vivitar 85-205/3.8; Tokina 70-210/4-5.6; Canon 100-300/5.6. There was a Sakar 2x teleconverter and a funky, huge .6x wide angle converter (screws onto the front of the 50, with a step-up ring). $40. He opened up his hatch and I saw a typewriter case -- "you want it? I was just going to take it to Savers [a secondhand donation store]." Yes I did -- a ca. 1949 Smith-Corona Clipper. Needed some repair but working nicely now.
 
I bought this Praktica for £10.

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Well actually I didn't buy it for the camera but for what it came with.

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All lubricants are dry. I heard it is a difficult lens to work on so probably I will have to find someone who is willing to work on it.

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I also had to break it to my wife somehow.

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I did not know that the Pancolar was radioactive. Somehow I managed to clean and lubricate one but it was in Exakta mount. It took a while and was kinda strange, but nothing to fear.
 
I did not know that the Pancolar was radioactive. Somehow I managed to clean and lubricate one but it was in Exakta mount. It took a while and was kinda strange, but nothing to fear.
The m42 mount definitely is - I don't know about the Exakta mount though. Actually is one of the *more* radioactive ones. Worst of all is the f/1.4 version.
 
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