What if Nikon (and Canon) released new RF FILM cameras (and lenses)?

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colker said:
Leica M6 prices are closing on 2k. Those cameras are 20 yrs old. 4k for a new camera does not sound that foolish anymore. Not to mention all the VF flare problems ... on M6. IMO it´s wiser to pay 4k and get an MP. ...
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but actually a new MP is $4,795 in the US (closer to $5k).

colker said:
... cheaper construction on M6. ...
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Really? Based on what?
 
BillBlackwell said:
Yes, of course. If your ultimate goal is to keep Leica in business, then knock yourself out.
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What is your ultimate goal?

I buy cameras to do photography, that is ultimately my goal. Leica makes cameras and sells them to people who buy cameras, and profits from the business. Is there something wrong with that?

If no one made any new cameras, eventually there would be no more camera companies and no more parts for the old cameras once they've worn out or become broken.

Your comment sounds like that something out of the 1800s wherein the notion was raised whether to close the US Patent Office because "everything that could be patented had already been invented." Happily, we've gotten beyond that idea... :)

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I knew the dream was over when Nikon subverted the rangefinder terminology for use on the Z line. But they could always call a digital rangefinder version the DS.

PF
 
How much were the 2000 and 2005 reissues when new? My memory isn’t working and I don’t feel like googling. :)
 
If they did the marketers would probably require the engineers to include so much extra bs it would kill all the fun

Nikon's slr killed the RF btw...but I bet there are some engineers at Canikon who would love to do it if the bean counters weren't in the way
 
colker said:
Leica M6 prices are closing on 2k. Those cameras are 20 yrs old. 4k for a new camera does not sound that foolish anymore. Not to mention all the VF flare problems and cheaper construction on M6. IMO it´s wiser to pay 4k and get an MP.
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Have you got an MP? Taken one apart? I ask seriously.

Marty
 
I owned one of the 2000 models but ultimately sold it because the lack of lenses. Yes I know there are vintage as well as S mount CVs but the ones I want I either have or can get in LTM. If Nikon had followed up with the limited editions with a few lenses you can buy separately then it would have meant something other than warm fuzzy aw shucks nostalgic feelings.
 
Last year I finally got the reissue 2005 Nikon SP set. I will probably keep this camera for my entire life. I think there is no doubt that the black paint Nikon SP is the best rangefinder camera that Japan has ever made.
 
KEVIN-XU 愛 forever;2860608 said:
Last year I finally got the reissue 2005 Nikon SP set. I will probably keep this camera for my entire life. I think there is no doubt that the black paint Nikon SP is the best rangefinder camera that Japan has ever made.
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If I had that 35/1.8 I would probably keep it for a long time. Too bad it wasn’t issued separately.
 
BillBlackwell said:
IMHO it's foolish to pay $4k+ for an MP or M-A when you could get a freshly CLA'd M6 or M2/3/4 for a fraction of the price.
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You forget that without this 'foolishness' you couldn't buy a used M2/3/4/6 nowadays because at some point in the past people were 'foolish' enough to pay a lot of money when they were new. Besides, without this 'foolish' behaviour a lot of companies (and jobs btw.) would'nt exist any more. So you should better think twice before you call this people foolish
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even when I get your intial thought especially whn comparing the M2 with the M-A.

Coming back to the topic, I doubt hat Nikon or Canon will ever produce film cameras again, but I wouldn't be surprised if Nikon comes sooner or later with a RF styled Z6/7. probably inheriting some design elements from the Nikon S.


Juergen
 
BillBlackwell said:
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but actually a new MP is $4,795 in the US (closer to $5k).


Really? Based on what?
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Based on the word of guys who CLA Leicas. Based on ugly chrome, silly logos, zinc instead of brass and crappy VFs which flare, unnacceptable in my standards.
 
Godfrey said:
Seems to me that when Nikon did this in the early '00s, the prices were about 2.5x to 3x what you are looking for above. They would be more expensive today.

That's not quite as expensive as a new Leica M-A or MP, but it's not that much cheaper either. And they were certainly sold as "luxury" products for enthusiasts and such.

I wouldn't be interested in a new Nikon or Canon film RF camera because I already have all the Leica M-mount lenses I need (never mind both Leica M film and digital bodies). If I needed a new film body, I'd buy a body that took my existing lenses—that is, another Leica M. It's the economical thing to do: my kit of Leica lenses is worth about three to four times what a new Leica M body costs. But my 40 year old Leica M film camera is just fine and I don't need (or want) a new body. :D

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I am talking about something a bit different from what they did. It would not be a de luxe reenactment but a new camera like a Zeiss Ikon ZM. Something that fits like an FM 3 in the hierarchy. An FM3 w/ a rangefinder. That could cost 900 dollars.
AE, manual focus, lightweight, rangefinder.. and manual lenses. BAM!!
Nikon would be the coolest kid on the block. It would sell their other cameras as well. It would pump the brand.
 
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