Canon LTM What's a good price for a 7s?

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So what's the going market price for a less than mint 7s?
Is $600 too high?
How about one with a crinkled up shutter curtain (but operational)?
Anything to look out for that would reduce the value?

Thanks
Tom
 
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most of the 7 series (& p) have crinkled shutter curtains, it's hard to find one that doesn't.
the 7s is usually much more money than a 7 because of the difference in meters (and i think because they look nicer too).

i would never pay 600 bucks for one, but i'm cheap and poor. (a deadly combo)!
i have not followed prices closely lately as i do not want the temptation, but i would think in the 350 to 550 range. obviously the camera would have to be near new for me to pay 600.

depending on lens focal length you plan on using, the p is much prettier, but has fl for 35/50/100 only. the 7 is more versatile in this regard.

joe
 
KEH sold a Canon 7sz in EX condition for $600; its production was ~4,000. The 7s should go for $400~$500. The Canon 7 with its Selenium cell meter goes for the $200~$250 range. Same camera, different meter. The odds of a CDS cell being accurate after almost 40 years are about the same as the Selenium cell being accurate. Look for a camera that was used in an ever-ready case, it will have protected the meter's cell. the Selenium in both of my Canon 7 cameras are accurate.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/426/sort/1/cat/500/page/3
 
Joe, I LOVE the look of Selenium lens arrays. It is WAY COOL! I use Weston meters, Kodak Retina's, shoe-mount Selenium meters. And I don't need to worry about batteries. I had one movie camera that had through-the-lens Selenium metering. A Bolex, with the Selenium cell on a swing out arm like the little Leica CL and M5. I have a coupled clip-on Selenium meter for the Nikon F. A good Selenium lasts forever.

The Canon 7s and 7sz have an accessory shoe. If you need wider than 35mm, and want to mount a wide-angle finder, the lack of the shoe on the Canon 7 is a pain.
 
the array by itself IS kinda funky, retro & futuristic at the same time.
my thoughts were more about where on the s body the array is and that it looks a bit more sleek.
it might be cause i'm so round myself that i like that sleek look on the things i own.

joe
 
The Canon P is Sleek; The L1 is Sleek; The VI-L is Sleek. The Nikon SP is sleek;
The Vt is 'sorta sleek' but has some "bumps" with the auxiliary wind. "Scotty, the trigger advance is offline, switch over to the emergency advance knob" "Aye, Cap'n, I'm wind'n as fast as I can" "Jim, I'm a Doctor, not a camera repairman"

The Canon 7, the 7s, and the 7sz do not strike me as sleek. Great shooters, not sleek.
 
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Joe, The 7 is a great user camera, but it is a big camera. If you have not held one, go and find one and hold it for awhile. I found it too large for street shooting. I held a VI-L and was sold immediately. The 7 and 7s do NOT have the build quality that the P, VI-T and VI-L have. They are solid brass and feel like a Leica M. the 7 is nowhere near as solid, but is a great user camera. On Ebay, you should be able to get a 7 in great shape with crinkled shutters (all of them have this) for 180-350, with most in the 225-275 range. If you can find a VI-T or L, I would say go for it. Smaller, more compact, and prettier (sleek) in my opinion. Great users. I use a handheld Sekonic meter, I find them far more accurate and convenient than the Canon meter hotshoe that I have.
 
achman,

welcome to the forum!
you're short on our forum history so i'm picturing some members giggling in the background.

i'm a canon freak! i have 2 p's and a 7 and about 5 canon lenses.
i would not sell or trade them for the newest leica m or even a m2 (my favourite leica).

i know the 7 is bigger but i actually use it on the street, at times with the 135/3.5 i have but more so with the 85/2 that is so sharp.

i have several other ltm cameras but the p is my fav.

do you 'p'?

joe
 
I should add that Joe's Canon 7 is built like a tank. It took an impact so hard that the solid glass prism for the projected frame lines sheared off at the base. It was the rear lens cap for a Canon 50mm F0.95 when I got it; the seller swore he bought the camera and lens separately but it dragged down the price of the lens anyway. The prism glued back together, some "shrapnel" out of the gears, and it is in operation again. Even tested it with the 50mm F0.95 and 10.5cm F2.5 Nikkor. Worked well, and gave Joe a good price on it. The top plate is bigger than my Canon L1 to house the meter and selenium cell, but the main body is the same size. The top plate brass is not as thick as the L1, but it did not dent on whatever impact that caused the prism to shear. The Body Shell (doors and Front) had slightly deformed, but went back into shape. It is a very solidly made camera; certainly does look bigger because of that meter mechanism. It does not feel as "dense" compared with the L1, a lot of space is taken by the meter mechanism and to house the Selenium cell.

A "canonator" shot, with a Canon 135 F3.5. Framing good, focus good. Not bad for a rear lens cap.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/3052/size/big/sort/1/cat/539
 
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