What's coming on Dec 21?

waterlenz said:
The context of this thread is LENSES, not cameras! I suggest you re-read the post leading to my previous reply. 🙄
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I think I know who started this thread. Do you?

And how do you propose we talk about those particular lenses without mentioning what cameras (Contarex and Icarex) they were made for? 😕
 
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The Sinar M is not likely the item that Zeiss is talking about. Sinar is a view camera company who does some very nice stuff, but that Sinar M is going to be over 20,000 dollars for the digital back alone...not exactly something you are going to sell millions of. Probably hundreds to low thousands, and if they are lucky tens of thousands. It seems pretty clear that Zeiss is talking about Zeiss lenses for F mount...that is what the leaked images were, right?
 
StuartR said:
The Sinar M is not likely the item that Zeiss is talking about. Sinar is a view camera company who does some very nice stuff, but that Sinar M is going to be over 20,000 dollars for the digital back alone...not exactly something you are going to sell millions of. Probably hundreds to low thousands, and if they are lucky tens of thousands. It seems pretty clear that Zeiss is talking about Zeiss lenses for F mount...that is what the leaked images were, right?
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Carl Zeiss Presents ZF!

....as in zee F mount. 😀

Very nice use of pastries, don't you agree? It's like they're telling us "Here are some pastries to drool over while we get the lenses ready to roll out." 😛 😀 🙂 LOL

Darkavenger start the fire!

R.J.

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I wonder if that's a Zeiss lens hood for the Planar on the right?? 😕

What is the URL for the page with that image, Jason?


R.J.
 
More than just the 45, although not a lot more; there's a 500mm P lens from 1998, I guess when they couldn't figure out how to get the motors to move that much glass fast enough. Now, as for details, I'm guessing that they're going to be at least P type lenses because so many Nikon bodies won't meter properly without the CPU contacts--but I'm not sure whether Cosina has any manufacturing experience with such a lens, which might mean it'll just end up being AI-s.
 
I don't think Nikon is going to sit back and let Zeiss use photos of Nikon bodies to sell Zeiss glass. Look at the magazine ads for third party lenses... the brand names on the bodies are never shown.

R.J.
 


If you look through the material on the SINAR system you will see it has a NIKON F modual so all NIKON F mount lenses can be used with it. ZEISS has already released its MEDIUM FORMAT manual lenses for the HASSY and they are compatible with the SINAR digital system. Now they will release the SMALL FORMAT 35mm ZF series of manual F mount lenses and everybody wins. The second photo in the line up is clearly a small format DIGITAL SLR where as the top is a Medium Format SLR. The second camera doesnt appear to have any markings on the lense. The most interesting thing about the system is the lack of special lenses for a digital format and the modular componets of the SLR system. I find it very appealing, The fousing concept of moving the digital sensor instead of moving glass. What I expect next is a street version of this focusing system in a Digital SLR body. Maybe Sony will produce it.

The ZF lenses will appeal to many and can be used as a retro manual on a FM2 or can be used on the newest digital camera system available. No Limets with a Future.

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Sinar m with Nikon Lenses

Small Piture Format - Great Effect!

Don‘t sell those Nikon lenses yet! By using the 35 mm Mirror Module, the Sinar m camera can easily also be converted into a 35 mm single-lens-reflex camera that can be used with a large variety of Nikon lenses opening up a great range of focal lengths for your Sinarback that extends from extreme wide-angle to super telephoto lenses


Something old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Something Blue
 
As a PR student, I can't believe the effect of the drip, drip, drip tactic of press releases. The level of frenzy on a site dedicated to rangefinders on the introduction of a lens system from one grand old optics company to be compatible with another grand old company's camera systems. This is powerfull. If it is a launch of Carl Zeiss lenses with Nikon F mount. All I can say is wow, this totally changes my purchasing plans for the next 4 years. Now it will be a used FM3 and 3 prime CZ lenses.

Bill
 
Mazurka said:
I think I know who started this thread. Do you?
A simple matter of clicking on the first page, are you able to?

And how do you propose we talk about those particular lenses without mentioning what cameras (Contarex and Icarex) they were made for? 😕
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The Contarex dates back to the 60's and possibly the 50's (My Zeiss Compendium is inconveniently located 5000 miles from me right now to check the exact year, but recall the bullseye a.k.a cyclops model - nickname according to country) I believe pre-dating the Icarex, thus the lens style being used for the current Voigtlaender SLR lenses originated with the Zeiss Ikon Contarex per my orginal statement. :angel:
 
RJBender said:
I don't think Nikon is going to sit back and let Zeiss use photos of Nikon bodies to sell Zeiss glass. Look at the magazine ads for third party lenses... the brand names on the bodies are never shown.

R.J.
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I hope you are right! Maybe this will serve as a wake-up call and they will develop some new high-quality primes! Both C and N are lacking in the WA department for their dSLRs IMHO. If Leica, or more likely the company developing their sensor, is able to solve the oblique ray problem, their superb M WA's could fill in where N and C have failed.
Tom 😀
 
Bryan Lee said:


If you look through the material on the SINAR system you will see it has a NIKON F modual so all NIKON F mount lenses can be used with it. ZEISS has already released its MEDIUM FORMAT manual lenses for the HASSY and they are compatible with the SINAR digital system. Now they will release the SMALL FORMAT 35mm ZF series of manual F mount lenses and everybody wins. The second photo in the line up is clearly a small format DIGITAL SLR where as the top is a Medium Format SLR. The second camera doesnt appear to have any markings on the lense.
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Bryan, I can read "ED" in this larger image.

R.J.
 
Well here's two thoughts to ponder"

1) Hey, Joe, see we're 11 pages in and still playing nice in the sandbox - guess we have our "holiday manners" in control.

2) Why have we spent 11 pages (and counting) taliking about SLR lenses on RFF?

OOPS!
 
waterlenz said:
The Contarex dates back to the 60's and possibly the 50's (My Zeiss Compendium is inconveniently located 5000 miles from me right now to check the exact year, but recall the bullseye a.k.a cyclops model - nickname according to country) I believe pre-dating the Icarex, thus the lens style being used for the current Voigtlaender SLR lenses originated with the Zeiss Ikon Contarex per my orginal statement. :angel:
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Pacific Rim Camera has some information on the Contarex here.

R.J.
 
Bryan -- there is no doubting that the Sinar M is cool, but do you think it will be even a blip on the radar of the new F mount Zeiss lenses? The body alone is 6500 dollars, and then you need to buy a 35mm mirror box for it and a 20,000 dollar back before you can even buy a lens. So we are talking around 30,000 dollars before you buy a lens for it. Certainly, I think it is a cool camera and a great idea, but I doubt it has ANYTHING to do with the announcement of the new CZ lenses other than coincidence and fortuitous timing...
 
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