Which Leica to choose after some Bessas and Leicas?

There is no perfect camera. Anyone who says this camera is bliss is lying or dellusional. You just get used to shortcomings.

Get used to your camera and stop buying gear.

There are some cameras that feel perfect in your hands and sometimes you need to go through a few to figure that out. That said, once you find something comfortable, you do have to just stop buying and use what you have.
 
My M3 1155... is 51 years in pro service!
Lots in "Interesting times"..
Was on floor of car between shoots, to protect from theft.
Major services, drum was cracked, shutter curtains replaced,
RF unit replaced 80's.
Vulcanite falling off, chrome worn away showing brass..
I don't believe that your is worn out!
In 1986 my count on M3 more than 5,000 rolls of BW alone..
Constant use since, now in Canada.

Maybe send to Youxin..maybe not factory trained but a natural..
I purchased M6TTL 'cause i "thought" M3 worn out..mm.
That was 18 years ago!
The M6 feels like a cheap copy..
 
Garry told curtains needs to be new to get rid of light leak, plus frame lines have ghosts after earlier, guick repair (sidewalk dropped, thanks to wrist strap) and I have some dots in RF patch...
The rest is like new, including Asahi Leather. M4-2 was shedding its original vulcanite 🙂.

It just came to me this morning. Maybe I could install neck strap mounts on R2M half-case.
To have them in normal position and to have camera not going lens up on me.
 
Try a black and nickel Leica III (1934/1936). They can be had for next to nothing. Add a SBOOI, a black paint Color Skopar 50mm f/2.5 and an original leather Leica strap from the sixties. Incredible outfit. Lasts forever.


Erik.


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Garry told curtains needs to be new to get rid of light leak, plus frame lines have ghosts after yearlier, guick repair (sidewalk dropped, thanks to wrist strap) and I have some dots in RF patch...
The rest is like new, including Asahi Leather. M4-2 was shedding its original vulcanite 🙂.

It just came to me this morning. Maybe I could install neck strap mounts on R2M half-case.
To have them in normal position and to have camera not going lens up on me.

No and no.
1. Why repair a camera (M4-2) that has given you such bad luck? Dump it.
2. Earlier you said that using a half case while shooting a camera is like having sex with a condom on. You also said you don't like the camera. Don't fool around with it - sell it.
With the money from the sales get a M2 and never look back.
 
No and no.
1. Why repair a camera (M4-2) that has given you such bad luck? Dump it.
2. Earlier you said that using a half case while shooting a camera is like having sex with a condom on. You also said you don't like the camera. Don't fool around with it - sell it.
With the money from the sales get a M2 and never look back.

What´s wrong w/ sex w/ condoms? That´s a bad analogy.
 
I agree... bad analogy. As my grandma told me when I was 18, "Sex with a condom may be like having a shower with a raincoat on, but at least you're getting a shower...." She had some other, really colorful advice too, and it was good advice in hindsight. Using a half case isn't like a condom in my humble opinion. Also, repairing an older camera can give it years of good life when it is a fundamentally good design, like a Leica.

Scott
 
If you don't want the camera to go lens up, then put a heavier lens on it like one of those 0.95 Canon's!

But seriously, Konstantin, most cameras are a compromise in one aspect or another. You did right by asking, but then that invites folks to pile on.

Just write yourself a list of specs that you require, see if anything comes close to matching that, then go with the least different model you find.

PF
 
I checked, if I sew in triangular strap rings to the half-case it should allows to keep R2M as normal camera on the neck strap.

Or get a 35mm f/1.7 ULTRON. I have the LTM version. It is a very good lens and large enough to keep my Bessa R balanced on its straps. No half case needed. I suppose working this balance thing out, one way or another, is not a bad idea; it keeps the Bessa working for you.

Main point: it will not kill your desire for a M, although he Bessa will always be good as a backup - if you can afford to hold on to it.
 
After reading through the thread.. I'd go with an M2. I have one and love it. The loading takes a little getting used to, but it's easy once you get the hang of it.

I also use my 28mm lens with an external voigtlander finder. I wear glasses and can see the framelines in the finder, so I use it on my M6 too, since the 28 framelines in that body are useless with glasses.
 
The only way (it seems) to have R2M not trashed is the half-case. But it is same way as sex in condom. 🙄
I need no protection from my hand and soul tools. Who plays violin while it is in the wrap?

No and no.
1. Why repair a camera (M4-2) that has given you such bad luck? Dump it.
2. Earlier you said that using a half case while shooting a camera is like having sex with a condom on. You also said you don't like the camera. Don't fool around with it - sell it.
With the money from the sales get a M2 and never look back.

What´s wrong w/ sex w/ condoms? That´s a bad analogy.

I agree... bad analogy. As my grandma told me when I was 18, "Sex with a condom may be like having a shower with a raincoat on, but at least you're getting a shower...." She had some other, really colorful advice too, and it was good advice in hindsight. Using a half case isn't like a condom in my humble opinion. Also, repairing an older camera can give it years of good life when it is a fundamentally good design, like a Leica.

Scott

Errrm, there have been quite strange —— and actually highly offensive —— things said here.

Simple fact is: For anyone, who loves their country, (heterosexual) sex with condom is high treason, basically.

One has to do it for the Kingdom, the Empire, the Republic —— ergo, there's no place for a condom!
 
Errrm, there have been quite strange —— and actually highly offensive —— things said here.

Simple fact is: For anyone, who loves their country, (heterosexual) sex with condom is high treason, basically.

One has to do it for the Kingdom, the Empire, the Republic —— ergo, there's no place for a condom!

Oh, "highly offensive" - oh gee whiz - my grandmother had more moxy. Pathetic.
 
You have been given many good advices on which Leica to get.

+1

Just don't understand this attraction to the M4-2 when it has been very nearly the death of you - by which I mean it has been a money sink or a bottomless pit. Old expression fits here - avoid "throwing good money after bad." Take your lumps and move on.

The Bessa 2RM is more or less in the same category - keeping a camera you don't like? Perhaps . . . but that invites the question - why, to what end? As it is new and reliable, I could see it as a back up camera for a while. In other words it is more useful than the M4, but ultimately not what you want.

It seems you know you want a M2. Sell the M4-2 and get it.
 
+1

Just don't understand this attraction to the M4-2 when it has been very nearly the death of you - by which I mean it has been a money sink or a bottomless pit. Old expression fits here - avoid "throwing good money after bad." Take your lumps and move on.

The Bessa 2RM is more or less in the same category - keeping a camera you don't like? Perhaps . . . but that invites the question - why, to what end? As it is new and reliable, I could see it as a back up camera for a while. In other words it is more useful than the M4, but ultimately not what you want.

It seems you know you want a M2. Sell the M4-2 and get it.

Thank you for keep on checking on me!
With neck strap applied to the half case it made big difference.
I went on 10km hike with R2M on me yesterday and it was not driving me nuts. Just not Leica, but OK camera. VF is super clean, RF is so so due to short base. 🙂.

Now I could sell M4-2 as is and get another M4-2 after CLA. 🙂
 
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