why do we like quiet cameras?

back alley said:
and i assume you have such same aspirations my young friend?

hard to achieve if you piss off a sicilian...;)

j/k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aww, but I've always wanted to wake up with a horse-head on my pillow beside me :(
 
Hi Joe, hi folks,

my 2 cts :
I got my first M6 because of issues avoiding shots at Jazz concerts and theater. Most interesting expression on the musicians/actors face and dead silence :eek: . The last note played and the audience still holding back on the cheer. I didn't take these shots because I don't earn a living on it. I would have been annoyed, if anyone had - with a SLR.
The sound, that "sklosh ... srrrrttt" of my former T90 (1.2/85L; 2.8/200; TMY-800 ISO) was just too disturbing. Speed wasn't an issue here :D but the noise really was. After getting used to the RF, I abandoned my T90's and finally sold the stuff off the pay for the RedDot GAS - at least partly. You've been there, I guess...
If taking pictures gets disturbing of course doesn't only depend on the sound of your camera but more on the overall attitude and apporach towards people. The M sound helps not to be "in the face" - and "in the ear" for that matter, that's why I like it.
 
airds said:
So I think the 'Batteries Not Included' blog man is waffling a bit when he says:

"Footnote: The Olympus 35SPn is a great, compact camera with an excellent lens - but it's not the one I would bring with me for candid street photograpy a lot due to the shutter sound."

Suppose he's got to justify his other expensive kit though ;-)
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You can suppose whatever you want but I have no need to justify my other cameras (none of them costing > $1,000 by the way). Not sure what called for that comment.

I like the Olympus 35Pn - but it's louder than other cameras I have - so I may be less inclined to use it for certain type of photography. Why is that 'waffling' or 'justifying'?
 
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FrankS said:
But it is called received wisdom not received nonsense. It must hold some value, the experiences of those that came before us.
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Without debate received wisdom is just dogma, and this is been a debate so a far. We can all see farther standing on the shoulders of others the trick is standing on the best shoulders
 
rover said:
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that's the sound of one of my dream cameras: Nikon F2AS with MB-1/MD-2 combo with the classic mf 80-200 2.8. (imagine me doing that barking sound tim allen used to make on "home improvement")

but i can appreciate the soothing sound of a leica as much as the flapping sound of a hasselblad and the film-eating/battery-draining rapid-fire of a tricked out slr. all are good sounds.

it's like comparing the rumble of an old muscle car V8 to the sound of a ferrari. two totally different sounds that ellicit different emotions...at least to me they do, anyway.

- chris

anyone want to start a mac vs. pc war?
 
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Rich Silfver said:
You can suppose whatever you want but I have no need to justify my other cameras (none of them costing > $1,000 by the way). Not sure what called for that comment.

Did you note the smiley?


I like the Olympus 35Pn - but it's louder than other cameras I have - so I may be less inclined to use it for certain type of photography. Why is that 'waffling' or 'justifying'?[/QUOTE]

The article was about using it for candid street photography - where I am sure there will be more ambient noise that the difference in the apparent level of shutter sounds - especially if the subject is further away that the camera is from your ear .......
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The article was about using it for candid street photography - where I am sure there will be more ambient noise that the difference in the apparent level of shutter sounds - especially if the subject is further away that the camera is from your ear .......
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While I have argued that I don't mind the sound of any shutter when shooting, in the particular instance that Richard was talking about it did make a difference as he stated in his article, it was heard over the ambient noise of the SF traffic.

Richard is not alone in his opinion, at least not as alone as I am in mind. Nothing wrong with either.
 
airds said:
The article was about using it for candid street photography - where I am sure there will be more ambient noise that the difference in the apparent level of shutter sounds - especially if the subject is further away that the camera is from your ear .......
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Not quite true, and as I also wrote:
"As I was taking a photo at an intersection (with the normal amount of mid-day San Francisco traffic) people did notice the sound as the shutter went off as they turned around and looked."

I've taken 'candid street photos' with a number of cameras (film, digital, rangefinders, SLR's) and even though ambient sound sometimes does drown out any shutter sound - this is not always the case.

Having said that, the best camera for anyone is probably one that the person feels comfortable with in the particular shooting situation - regardless of shutter sound.

Edit: Didn't see Rover's post before I made my now somewhat redundant entry.
 
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back alley said:
thanks for the clarification, i thought i pissed you off.
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That's ok, Joe. I'm (almost) used to it; people thinking I get pissed off easily. Which in the U.K. would mean I get drunk easily, but that's another matter entirely.

I am so wubable, I weally am. I guess my eye-batting doesn't show online.
 
chris91387 said:
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that's the sound of one of my dream cameras: Nikon F2AS
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I see you are secure and unabated by marketing (and engineering) jibbi-jabba ;)
 
gabrielma said:
That's ok, Joe. I'm (almost) used to it; people thinking I get pissed off easily. Which in the U.K. would mean I get drunk easily, but that's another matter entirely.

I am so wubable, I weally am. I guess my eye-batting doesn't show online.
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pissed = drunk in canada
pissed off = mad/angry
pissed on = all wet ;)
 
BrianShaw said:
Wow, what a wonderfully versatile word.
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In England “pissed” is just one of about 40 words or phrases that mean drunk, it’s nice to know we can still excel at something!!
 
Snow is free...

Well, there is this ski-jumping club which makes its own snow right before Winter. Hmm, ok, not all snow is free. Just like not all beer is not free.

Is there a place where there are 40 different words for slight variations of "sex"? That probably is a very very welcoming environment :angel: -- no need for quiet cameras there, perhaps?
 
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