Why do you shoot slides?

Have many of my old Kodachromes from Pentax K1000 days and enjoy projecting them still.More recent Provia transparencies from my Bronica and YashicaMat look delightful on my homemade projection table,BUT holy crap,you just gotta see expired EPP on 4x5 from my old Busch Pressman!!(And they're easy to store).Can't imagine what a projected 4x5 tranny would be like.
Regards,Peter
 
+ 10000 🙂

And especially if you look through an excellent optical loupe, like the Schneider and Rodenstock slide loupes:
http://www.schneider-kreuznach.com/foto_e/zubehoer_lupen.htm

http://www.rodenstock-photo.com/en/main/products/magnifiers/aspherical-magnifiers/

My reasons for shooting slides:

1. Projection: Absolutely unsurpassed quality (brillance, sharpness, resolution, fine grain, tonality) at that big enlargements.
I've compared slide projection with excellent projection lenses to the current most expensive beamers (2 MP; 7000€).
The result is absolutely clear: Slide projection is a league of its own. Far superior resolution and sharpness, better brillance and tonality, much better color reproduction.
The most expensive beamers can not compete at all with slide projection.
With beamers you have the situation that you pay e.g. 7000€ for a 24 MP Nikon D3x, and then you pay another 7000€ to smash this resolution down to the extrmely low resolution of 2 MP with the beamer (and the 2 MP are only valid in horizontal direction, in vertical direction you have even 40% less resolution).

2. Slide viewing with an excellent slide loupe: Outstanding quality, fast, convenient.
Viewing slides this way with a little daylight light table (like this one http://www.kaiser-fototechnik.de/en/produkte/2_1_sortiment.asp?w=381 ) is as fast as looking at prints in a photoalbum. But with better image quality.
This way you can easily show others your slides without projection.This set-up is smaller and lighter than a photoalbum or a laptop.

3. Prints have a limited contrast range of about five stops (max. contrast from deep black to shiny white on the print). There is a physical limit which cannot be surpassed.
Slides as a transparent medium can deliver higher contrast ranges. With certain (BW) slides films even more than 10 stops.
This greater max. contrast range of slides is one reason for their higher brillance.

4. With slide film you can achieve higher resolution, better sharpness and finer grain compared to color negative films.
There have been some scientific tests proving that films like Ektachrome E100G, Provia 100F, Velvia 100 and 100F, Astia 100F have about 30-40% higher resolution than Ektar 100.
I've made some comparison tests, too, and can confirm that.

5. Reliability:
What you see is what you get.
Give your slide film in 5 different labs, and you will always get the same results.
Give your CN film in five different labs and order prints from them, then you will most probably receive five different results, because the operator at the printer does an interpretation. You get differences from the scanning and from the operator of the machine, who decides about contrast and colors.

6. Most authentic form of photography: A slide is an original, the pure form, not manipulated in any form.

7. Versatility:
Slides can be viewed only with the eye, holding against light, with a loupe, they can be projected on a screen, and you can scan and print them (and currently there is still the possibility to make a Ilfochrome, or a direct print with Harman Direct Positive Paper).
Color negatives can only be printed.

8. Very cost efficient:
Color negative film makes sense if you want prints.
For a quality print I have to pay here about 35 - 40 cents depending on the lab.
A 36 exp. CN film, developed and with prints cost me more than a slide film with development.

If you consider projection than there is an even much more significant price gap: With projection my huge, brillant picture of 1m x 1,5m or 2 x 3m cost me less than 1€ in total.
A print from CN film of that size cost me much more than 100€, and doesn't have the brillance, resolution, fine grain and sharpness of the projected slide.

9. BW slides:
Their tonality is unique. Yo can not get this unique look with prints.
Once you have seen BW slides, you are hooked.

Slides, that is where film is absolutely unique and can not be replaced by CN or digital.

Cheers, Jan

Well, sorry, but I've forgotten some further reasons for shooting slide film:

- You always have an original color reference for scanning and printing: Look at your slide and you know how the real colors are.
That is impossible with color negatives: Our brain is not able to convert the color negatives to real natural colors.
Besides the superior detail rendition of slide film that has been the main reason for the popularity of slide film in professional photography.

- Slide film is the best photography teacher: You have to do it right at the moment you click the sutter (if you're doing the real stuff, viewing the slides on a light table and in projection; without scanning and further manipulation).
Slide film makes you a more disciplined and deliberate photographer. You think before you shoot. Less clicks, but more good shots in the end.

- With slides you feel like being back in the scene at the moment you shot it, it's so real.
It's a "time machine":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suRDUFpsHus

Cheers, Jan
 
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Jan, that's the reference answer there.

The real question is why do people shoot print film?

BTW: Ilfachrome is said to be around for another year or so.
 
Slide film and I are old friends that met in about 1980 and have been together ever since. I never liked print film even though with it's broader exposure latitude it is easier to work with than slide, but I learned on slide film and find it much more to my taste than print stock.
And besides, in my opinion, nothing compares to the vibrance of a projected slide. They still give me the shivers when I view them.
 
Do any of you get your 135 slides un-mounted? If you are not going to project them, then it would save storage space to have them returned to you in strips of 5. I have a lot of mounted slides, but I also have a lot of slide film in the fridge. I think I may just get it unmounted.
 
Slides cut out the color printing process

May I present to you: ILFOCHROME CLASSIC

With Kodachrome and Cibachrome gone I will stick to b/w once the rest of my E6 runs out.

Well, it's a good thing CIBACHROME was renamed ILFOCHROME CLASSIC then!

I had my Cibachromes done at Holland Photo, a mail order place in Texas. I may be wrong but I think the chemicals for Ilfochrome is no longer available.
Still going for the time being...

+2. And 35mm slides are not that far behind! I shoot both. And I like to project my slides onto my 8 foot wide screen. It's like having Todd-AO at home. (how many today know what Todd-AO was? OK, how about 70mm Panavision, then?)
I project my Todd-AO onto a 63-foot-wide screen... and my Super Panavision too... and I get paid for it 😀
 
Do any of you get your 135 slides un-mounted? If you are not going to project them, then it would save storage space to have them returned to you in strips of 5. I have a lot of mounted slides, but I also have a lot of slide film in the fridge. I think I may just get it unmounted.

I get mine unmounted. Not projecting them,so it's cheaper and takes up less storage space. At least with my scanners, it's easier to scan as well.
 
Do any of you get your 135 slides un-mounted?

Always unmounted.
I do mount myself, so I can use the best mounts.
I put the film on the light table and view with my slide loupe.
The best shots then I mount in the best slide mounts available:
Diaspeed HT-XYZ ( www.diaspeed.de ).
With this genious mount system I get perfectly plane slides: No "plopp" in projection, perfect even sharpness from edge to edge.
And no hassle with glasses, because it is a glassless mount system.
Perfect for archiving as well.
I can highly recommend them.

Cheers, Jan
 
Do any of you get your 135 slides un-mounted?

I generally order them unmounted - the supplied frames usually are too bad for both projection and scanning. And the kind of mounts I prefer, single-glass AV frames, cost an arm and a leg, so only frame the slides that actually get projected.
 
I started out shooting B&W when I was a kid, but as my Dad moved into the world of transparencies, so did I. Projected images were so much more satisfying than prints. Then I really started to learn. There was a lot less latitude with slides and I had to pay much closer attention to exposure. Now that Kodachrome is gone I'm shooting mostly E100G and have moved into medium format. This is so much more satisfying. Kind of boost now that I'm in my 60's. I shoot a strictly digital at work, but on my own time when I can take forever to set up a shot I'm real happy. Sometimes I'll set one up today and shoot it tomorrow... if the light is favorable.
 
Why do I shoot slides? Because getting a roll back from the lab, opening the package and seeing the colors stream through the emulsion is just incredible. I usually can't even wait to get to a light table let alone my scanner...the roll is held up to the first outside window I come through.

35mm slides are great. Medium format slides are incredible. Large format slides are breathtaking.

On that note, I'm putting some Provia 100F into my Mamiya 7ii and heading out to photograph.

Enjoy,

Jeff
 
For my money, slides are the best example of the tactile nature of film photography. You can hold them up to the light, use a loupe, or project them to share them. Negatives are far harder to appreciate on their own--they need to be printed first (or scanned, these days).

I always get better results scanning my slides over my negatives...not sure why that is.
 
I have about four feet of notebooks full of slides from the 80s and 90s if you want any. I literally want to edit them down to a few dozen pages and toss the rest.

I moved over the summer and just didn;t have the time to do this. I've got my slides in those metal boxes- and I don't even want to think about how many there are. I almost just tossed the whole lot of them- when am I going to have time to go through them?

But there are some I'd like to have nice prints of maybe...

I shot slides as family snapshots forever, but with the kids grown rarely (never) do now. Few things photographic as beautiful as a well exposed slide projected onto a nice screen.
 
Hi folks,

I've posted the summary of all the advantages and good reasons to shoot slide film (see below).
Lot's of photographers contacted me because of this list and said 'thanks' (if you like the list feel free to copy it and give it to other photographers).

One photographer recommended to add two further aspects:

- slide film is ideal to test your camera, whether the light meter and shutter are working correct

- slide film is ideal to test lenses, because of the superior resolution and finer grain compared to CN film (evaluated in the optical imaging chain with projection or microscope, because even 8000 ppi drumscaners are not able to resolve all the details in slide film).

Here the original list I am referring to:

There are lots of very good reasons for shooting slides:

1. Projection: Absolutely unsurpassed quality (brillance, sharpness, resolution, fine grain, tonality) at that big enlargements.

I've compared slide projection with excellent projection lenses to the current most expensive beamers (2 MP; 7000€).
The result is absolutely clear: Slide projection is a league of its own. Far superior resolution and sharpness, better brillance and tonality, much better color reproduction.
The most expensive beamers can not compete at all with slide projection.
With beamers you have the situation that you pay e.g. 7000€ for a 24 MP Nikon D3x, and then you pay another 7000€ to smash this resolution down to the extrmely low resolution of 2 MP with the beamer (and the 2 MP are only valid in horizontal direction, in vertical direction you have even 40% less resolution).
You burn more than 10,000€ to get crappy results. Digital projection is completely ridiculous in it's cost - performance relation.

2. Slide viewing with an excellent slide loupe: Outstanding quality, fast, convenient.

Viewing slides this way with a little, slim daylight light table is as fast as looking at prints in a photoalbum. But with better image quality.
This way you can easily show others your slides without projection.This set-up is smaller and lighter than a photoalbum or a laptop.

3. Prints have a limited contrast range of about five stops (max. contrast from deep black to shiny white on the print). There is a physical limit which cannot be surpassed.

Slides as a transparent medium can deliver higher contrast ranges. With certain (BW) slides films even more than 10 stops.
This greater max. contrast range of slides is one reason for their higher brillance.

4. With slide film you can achieve higher resolution, better sharpness and finer grain compared to color negative films.

There have been some scientific tests proving that films like Ektachrome E100G, Provia 100F, Velvia 100 and 100F, Astia 100F have about 30-40% higher resolution than Ektar 100.
I've made some comparison tests, too, and can confirm that.

5. Reliability:

What you see is what you get.
Give your slide film in 5 different labs, and you will always get the same results.
Give your CN film in five different labs and order prints from them, then you will most probably receive five different results, because the operator at the printer does an interpretation. You get differences from the scanning and from the operator of the machine, who decides about contrast and colors.

6. Most authentic form of photography: A slide is an original, the pure form, not manipulated in any form.


7. Versatility:

Slides can be viewed only with the eye, holding against light, with a loupe, they can be projected on a screen, and you can scan and print them (and currently there is still the possibility to make a Ilfochrome, or a direct print with Harman Direct Positive Paper).
Color negatives can only be printed.

8. Very cost efficient:

Color negative film makes sense if you want prints.
For a quality print I have to pay here about 35 - 40 cents depending on the lab.
A 36 exp. CN film, developed and with prints cost me more than a slide film with development.

If you consider projection than there is an even much more significant price gap: With projection my huge, brillant picture of 1m x 1,5m or 2 x 3m cost me less than 1€ in total.

A print from CN film of that size cost me much more than 100€, and doesn't have the brillance, resolution, fine grain and sharpness of the projected slide.

9. BW slides:

Their tonality is unique. Yo can not get this unique look with prints.
Once you have seen BW slides, you are hooked.

10. You always have an original color reference for scanning and printing: Look at your slide and you know how the real colors are.

That is impossible with color negatives: Our brain is not able to convert the color negatives to real natural colors.
Besides the superior detail rendition of slide film that has been the main reason for the popularity of slide film in professional photography.

11. Slide film is the best photography teacher: You have to do it right at the moment you click the sutter (if you're doing the real stuff, viewing the slides on a light table and in projection; without scanning and further manipulation).

Slide film makes you a more disciplined and deliberate photographer. You think before you shoot. Less clicks, but more good shots in the end.

12. With slides you feel like being back in the scene at the moment you shot it, it's so real.

It's a "time machine":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suRDUFpsHus


Slides, that is where film is absolutely unique and can not be replaced by CN or digital.


Cheers, Jan

P.S.: It is now time to support Fuji to keep color slide film alive.
With slide I always have an authentic picture. I only need to hold it against light to enjoy it.
Impossible with CN and digital.
Slide film is a major part of photographic culture.
It absolutely deserves to stay alive!
 
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