Why Leica? - a confession of equipment junkie

My first 35mm camera was a "Robin 1.9" , a generic Japanese rangefinder made by the Taron Camera Company. I paid about $25 for it new in 1962. It was quite a serviceable camera with a sharp, fixed 45mm lens, bright rf/vf, and a Seiko shutter.

I was the photographer for my high school newspaper at the time; the paper had no cameras for me to use but did have a sharing arrangement with a darkroom. I bought my own film and darkroom supplies and submitted receipts for reimbursement. It was more expensive print photographs than text, and I was budgeted at one postage stamp sized informal portrait and one, sometimes two, 3"x4" photographs per issue. My expenses per issue were usually about $3 to $5, depending on if I had to buy a new package of developer.

The fixed normal lens on the Robin was fine some some work but just not suitable for covering football and basketball games.

I bought a second hand Leica IIIc in order to be able to use a telephoto lens at the athletic events. The lens was a Canon Serenar 135mm/f3.5 and I used a Tewe viewfinder that a friend's father had found under the seat of an airliner during a trip (still have the finder). The Leica and lens combination cost about a third of the discounted price of a Pentax H1 at the time.

There was no problem using the Leica at football games as they, obviously, were outdoors with plenty of light. For basketball games, held at night indoors, I had to become a bit more inventive. I shot with either Tri-X or a (nominal) ASA 800 film pushed to ASA 1600 or 3200 in Ethol UFG. I learned to catch the basketball players at the top of a jump, where they were, for an instant, motionless, in order to use the relatively slow shutter speed required by the f3.5 maximum of the lens. Generally I shot while sitting down on the floor just in front of the bleachers; it paid to watch where the players were heading in order to avoid being tampled. The best results came when shooting home games where the school team wore white uniforms. The Leica didn't have flash synchronization so neither flashbulbs (in common use then) nor an electronic flash (which went for about the price of a Pentax then) so available light were an option.

I had only the only 135mm lens for quite a while. I sold the Robin 1.9 in order to buy a 50mm/1.8 Serenar which I used for the next 25 years.

Much later, when I was a graduate student I saw a tiny ad in the back of Modern Photography offering Schact (sp?) LTM lenses for about $30. I bought a 35mm Travenar in order to have a wide angle lens; my Tewe was a zoom finder and also covered 35mm. Later on, I had the camera at a wedding and ran into the chairman of my university department shooting with a Leica IIIg (the bride was a relative of his). I loaned him the lens to try and he wound up buying one of each of the Schact lenses being offered (35mm, 90mm, and a 135mm).
 
Doug said:
Oooooohhhh nice! I even like the knob rewind. What an elegant machine. And those two lenses should be incredible. Same focal lengths I've had for my M2 since the 60's, but a stop faster on each, and of course more modern optics. Anyway, a good combination I think. If you don't get comfortable with this outfit, then you'll know you needn't try again; Leicas just aren't for you! Otherwise, something to keep for life, and pass on to future apprectiative generations!



That's exactly for what I'm hoping.

I've got the first film out of the soup, I'm scanning it now. I shot TMAX-100 and developed in TMAX, EI 400 (9 minutes, 75 degrees). Very first frame is below. Pardon the complete lack of any actual subject matter or composition- I had just unpacked the camera and hooked up the 35mm Summilux- shot at f/2, as I recall.

It's sharp. I have no idea on what I was focusing, sadly, but I think I had the camera set for nearly infinity. The first several shots are, of course (and as with any camera I buy these days, new or not) tests for focus, exposure, &c. Exposure on all frames is good. I shot with flash, too- those are of course, fine.

I did apply an unsharpen mask, radius 5.6, 14 levels, 100 percent. I'm still fiddling with it to get it right on my monitor.

The plan is to shoot several pictures/day, develop rolls at least once a week (glad I load myself!) until I get the cost per shot down a bunch ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H the hang of the camera.
 
No, he's sold out. Someone posted an add for one on Photo.net. I caught it an hour after he posted it thinking I would get the lens. I was fifth in line! I think if Voightlander made a higher speed series of their lenses they would make a killing. I would like to have a 21mm that is fast but don't really use it enough to justify Leica prices. I also have some thing about lenses slower that f2.8. I guess it's because most of my shots are taken at home after work and slow lenses just won't do.
 
Another picture.

The Summilux 35mm ASPH doesn't flare like the Summicron did- and the negatives, even pushed, have a rather "large" dynamic range. I've pushed this film in exactly the same way with other cameras, and had much flatter negatives.

This is amazing, and a rather different experience from my last Leicas.

Yes, it's a cat, in an undignified pose. f/1.4~f/1.8, 1/15 sec. shutter. Motion blur is evident, but manageable. Vignetting is there too, but not disagreeable. Another test picture, focused close up, so I'll not comment on my own composition. 🙂

I'll go looking for a picture with some detail in it for a closup.
 
Last test post. Maybe.

Zooming in indicates the lens/camera combo at the point of focus (here, f/4, high shutter flash speed of 1/50, closefocus, 90mm Summicron ASPH) to be rather sharper than my own scanner can resolve- every pixel is in use conveying the image information. There are discrete transitions between light and dark areas. I didn't use any processing- this is the scan as it came from VueScan, double scanned, and auto adjusted in VueScan for light/dark. Opened and resized in Photoshop CS.

WOW! Most certainly NOT like my previous Leica experience!

The cat, Renoir, is not annoyed with me but with his "co-habitant," seen in previous test shots.

 
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Well, some of the Konica lenses are still available in Japan. If you are interested in the 21/35, I suggest you try Map Camera in Shinjuku -- they have it on sale now for 132,000 yen. That's a hair over 1000 dollars, which is chump change for that lens...
http://www.mapcamera.com/shopping/v...=1&navi_method=maker&main_cate=L&maker=konica

They also have the 28 and the 50. They may have more in the used section.

Edit: whoa, sorry, it seems several pages of thread have intervened between my post and what I was intending to respond to...sorry.
 
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Thank you very much, Oscar, and it's fun indeed!

When I go to Portugal in April, this'll be my traveller's kit, and I'm probably also going to bring along the Kiev with the 21mm CV for wide angle shots outside- it's certainly competent enough.

The 90mm ASPH is a razor.
My 35mm 1.4 ASPH is... Well, the jury is out. Not bad for flare, but not the sharpest, either, but then again, I'm looking at the pictures scanned and it might just be that my scanner doesn't have the resolution.
First is the full negative scan, second is the face on which I focused and shot. Admittedly, this isn't a controlled test of any kind, and I had to focus and shoot quickly- what I perceive as "not sharp" might be a touch of motion blur at the 1/30 sec shutter speed (and my slightly shakey hands). It's just sorta typical of the results on the negatives.
 
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jdos2 -- I have a feeling you will reevaluate the 35 summilux ASPH after taking some more shots with it. It may not be as sharp as the APO ASPH 90mm, but it is very, very sharp.
 
Doug said:
Oooooohhhh nice! I even like the knob rewind. What an elegant machine. And those two lenses should be incredible. Same focal lengths I've had for my M2 since the 60's, but a stop faster on each, and of course more modern optics. Anyway, a good combination I think. If you don't get comfortable with this outfit, then you'll know you needn't try again; Leicas just aren't for you! Otherwise, something to keep for life, and pass on to future apprectiative generations!


Looking back through the thread, I never responded- I was kinda worried for a while there, that my purchases would come to naught.

I've been enjoying the MP immensely, and you are right- they are good together.

Not to say I'm not looking for a 50mm to round things out.

The MP is very nice. Worth every sweat spent, hard earned, tight fisted, white knuckled, miserly penny.

(so far)

🙂


(Fuzzy scans courtesy of my fuzzy scanner, now relegated to simple Medium and Large format work- dedicated film scanners work SO much better!)
 
My Leica story goes like this:
When i want something strongly I set my mind up to it and then I patienly wait until the right moment appears. The First Leica I saw was on an ad - it was a M4 and I was "sold" it must have been early 70ties when I was about 10 years old - I have always liked mechanics and watches etc. I cut the ad out of a magazine and it was stuck with cellotape on my closset door until I some years later saw an ad for a Black M5 - that ad occopied my door for another period until I moved away from my parrents house and I took it down and keept it with my import papers like my birth cetificate. sometime during the 80ties I saw that the M6 was introduced - I got the brocure and had it until 1997 when fortune and hard work made me recieved a bonus at work at the same time as the local pro camera dealer had a demo M6 with a Summicron 35 2,0 at a reasonable price. Until that point I had used Canon AF/EOS for 24x36 film and I had never actually held a Leica in my hands, only in my mind ! The dealer gave me a full year warranty and i asked him to place the camera and lens etc. in their boxes. Not before I came home to my appartment did I touch the Leica - It was almost a religous moment. I had my old brochure, the black box with the M6 - the strap - the battery - the film and the lens in the "leather" pouch and the manual.
Since that day i have only used my Canon EOS for longe tele and macroshots - I recently sold my canon backupcamera and 4 lenses and a flash.
After My first leica the family has grown to a IIIf and a M2
my motto: Like good sex, cars and food there is no going back - and even though i think it is great to use yashica rangfinders there is for 24x36 nothing that comes anywere near the shooting pleasure of an Leica rangefinder - nothing - I use less film, and I get more good shots on a film that I ever did with my canons
My lenses are 35 mm summicron, 4,0 90 mm elmar, 50 mm 1,5 summarit and for the IIIf 3,5 5cm elmar - 3,5 3,5 cm summaron and 90 mm 4,0 elmar -
At one point i would love to get a 20 mm wide lens
 
May all your Leica dreams come true

May all your Leica dreams come true

Whoah Ruben that is a lonnnnnnnnnnnnng time to hold on to the dream..... I wish my own Leica tale could equal yours, but in truth I waited twenty years saying to myself I really can't afford one, then Frank Somebody comes along with an affordable IIIf and you take the plunge. Now I have two IIIf's. 🙂 So it goes.
 
I've said elsewhere on this forum that I have no desire to own a Leica. After reading this thread, I just may have to reconsider that position 🙂. I have a number of cameras I don't really need... maybe I should start raising some funds....
 
Well, at least that way I could reduce the camera population around the house. I swear the darn things have been breeding when I wasn't looking and tripped over a couple of them this morning.

Right now the only "Leica" I can afford is the little Minox submini film IIIf replica or an actual low-end Leica point-and-shoot.

It's good to have a goal...
 
dkirchge said:
I've said elsewhere on this forum that I have no desire to own a Leica. After reading this thread, I just may have to reconsider that position 🙂. I have a number of cameras I don't really need... maybe I should start raising some funds....

doug, maybe it's time for a nice canon p!

same quality feel nice low price (compared to a leica)
and i think i have seen a certain glow to some of my prints. 😉

joe
 
Hmmm... Canon P.... also a worthy goal. I wouldn't say no to adding any of the classic rangefinders to my collection, actually, or perhaps a Contaflex... or maybe both.

<sigh> I thought picking up the Polaroid was the end... I can see now that I have slipped into a full-blown case of chronic camera acquisitionitis. :bang:

I may not have a lot of money, but I'll have some nice shiny toys to play with.
 
I just got done looking at a Canon 7 that has gotten too high for me to deal with, but I still want to go back and bid again. The 7 is an even bigger weak spot, for me, than the P. I actually like the odd little selenium window covering and since I shoot with the right lenses and without a flash, I'm safe that way too!

Sigh. I'd almost be willing to trade my K5 for a 7 and a 50/1.8...

Wiliam
 
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