Sejanus.Aelianus
Veteran
That sums it up well. Perhaps we could all agree that the Leica is as to the upper vehicle and, say, the Nikon D700 or Canon 6D is as to the lower vehicle?
hepcat
Former PH, USN
No. Not buying it. All of the cameras are working gear. THAT is most definitely a toy car. What kind of car is it anyway?
airfrogusmc
Veteran
Agree.
I also agree with your post #198
I will be switching completely to Leica M over the next couple of years even for my professional work for a lot of the reasons that you mentioned. No autofocus in the world is faster than to be pre focused (hyper focus). I to have had missed focus or missed shots because of slow auto focus.
And the Canon digitals, I know from experience, aren't near as durable as the truck in the photo.
The first picture shows an unusual "smart" brand car variant. The company is a subsidiary of Mercedes.
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Well-known
That ought to keep things stirred up.
Vince Lupo
Whatever
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Do you actually know what "non sequitur" means?
I'm not trying to persuade anyone to buy a Leica. I'm just hoping that they will see through insinuations about the title of my talk speaking volumes, or about how "Caring about what other people think about you says more about you than them."
I don't care what they think about me. At least, not very much. I do however care that they are not dissuaded from buying a very fine rangefinder camera by someone who chose to buy an Olympus SLR instead, just because it's cheaper, and who clearly does not value Leicas enough to buy one. Sure, the Olympus may be the ideal choice for you. Just not for everyone.
If you're so concerned about "I, perhaps naively, thought that my vision and technique would be the limiting factors," you could well be right. Mine undoubtedly are too. Although my pictures may not be great, (a) anyone can see them at www.rogerandfrances.com and (b) they've helped me earn a (modest) living for decades.
Cheers,
R.
gnarayan
Gautham Narayan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCT-YMgjm9k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1tTBncIsm8
I'd love to see you do half of this to an M9 or an M240.
airfrogusmc
Veteran
Right at 20K with my MM no problems. First my 5Ds were both in the shop several times and both my 5DIIs have been in several times. A complete shutter failure in a 5DII while shooting for NATO when it was in Chicago back in may of 2012. Real world is what counts.
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Well-known
This is precisely the kind of comment that earns Leica owners the derision of others. It's unfortunate.
I'll say it again:
faberryman said:
Hardly a dissuasive statement.
hepcat
Former PH, USN
Thanks, Doug. What a nice looking little ride. I'd never seen one before.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
A friend used to commute from rural Kent to central London, usually in his 911 but sometimes in his Maserati Ghibli. Both were surprisingly practical cars on smooth flat roads in Kent and London in the 1970s and 1980s, and he had secure parking at his studio. He was also the most knowledgeable person I ever met (I think) about Leica history. And he had earned his all money as a photographer, with Hasselblads, Gandolfis, Leicas, Nikons...Utterly and completely practical!
Then there was Terence Donovan with his Rolls Royce. He was a great Rollei TLR fan: he used to buy them when he saw them cheap, and give them away to his favoured assistants.
I've known other photographers who liked expensive cars too. I just don't see any more connection between their cameras and their cars than I do between my cameras and my inexpensive cars: Peugeot 309 and Land Rover 88 inch series III.
Cheers,
R.
hepcat
Former PH, USN
And back when I was shooting EOS1s, I had two AF lenses fail at different times just shooting weddings. Every brand has failures... such is life. That's why I carry three bodies, redundant flash, and lenses of overlapping focal lengths. Or at least close enough that I can finish an assignment if something fails.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
It does? Why? If you're determined to shower derision on Leica owners, you'll use any excuse. If you're not, you won't, especially an excuse as feeble as this.
Cheers,
R.
airfrogusmc
Veteran
32 years an in the shop one time about 9 years ago.
I a couple of years ago I had a 1DsMkIII come from Canon CPS and was DOA.
I a couple of years ago I had a 1DsMkIII come from Canon CPS and was DOA.
gnarayan
Gautham Narayan
The real world that you extrapolated to from a sample size of... you. My Oly E510 is 7 years old and hasn't been in despite the occasional tumble, bump and drop. Still keeps going, but I'm not going to claim it is more reliable than a 7D overall because it probably isn't. Particularly with CPS - Oly doesn't have anything like it, and for that matter neither does Leica. For the film cameras you routinely see posts here about the long repair times from DAG, Golden Touch or Youxin Ye, and for the digitals it's just straight back to Solms or to Leica NJ if it's minor.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
And the lens didn't spontaneously combust when you screwed in the cap?32 years an in the shop one time about 9 years ago.
Cheers,
R.
Vince Lupo
Whatever
Roger, see any connection between the Porsche, and Monochrom and this?
Priorities by Vince.Lupo, on Flickr
Unless it's maybe an interest in the unusual!
The Cayman is an extremely practical car - two trunks, 30mpg on a good day, completely comfortable to drive, and actually quite economical to run.
airfrogusmc
Veteran
And to me if the equipment functions when I need it to that is all that matters. And so far my MM has far exceeded any of my Digital Canons.
I hate all the crap on my 5DIIs and the crazy layer filled menu. But thats me. So to me and a lot of others (long waiting times for Leica M cameras) Leica M matters and if they are smart they won't follow the big two.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear Vince,Roger, see any connection between the Porsche, and Monochrom and this?
Priorities by Vince.Lupo, on Flickr
Unless it's maybe an interest in the unusual!
You need a Land Rover!
And two sets of snow chains.
Cheers,
R.