mexipike
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I've been looking aroung and have been unsuccesful. Is there a quality point and shoot film camera with a wide lens. Wide as in wider then 28mm 21 or below. I know the ricoh grdr21 is awesome but I could buy another leica body for the price on ebay. Any suggestions? cheap would be nice.
btgc
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Digital or film? If film, then fully AE is OK or you need control aver aperture or speed? That would help to cut off many many unnecessary options.
Aristophanes
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Panasonic makes some good 24mm equivalents.
mexipike
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Film definitely, some control would be nice, bu I'd consider complete ae. A good sharp lens is key.
Peter_S
Peter_S
Until you mentioned "cheap" I thought immediately Contax G + 21mm. But then you would get one of the best - if not THE best - 21mm there is, P&S or not.
Matus
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There is the Fuji Silvi (also called f2.8) with 25-50 zoom lens. I had the camera and it was producing rather nice pictures. Also the metering worked fine, Just the AF was on the slow side. at 25mm the lens speed is f/2.8
In the digital world you could get a Ricoh GRDIV and put the coverer on it and then you get 21mm field of view. Based on the photos I have seen the converter is of good quality and does not degrade the IQ.
But what about the Bessa L (no rangefinder) with a Skopar 21/4.5 or even Heliar 15/4.5 (+ viewfinder of course)? Not much of focusing needed with lenses that wide.
In the digital world you could get a Ricoh GRDIV and put the coverer on it and then you get 21mm field of view. Based on the photos I have seen the converter is of good quality and does not degrade the IQ.
But what about the Bessa L (no rangefinder) with a Skopar 21/4.5 or even Heliar 15/4.5 (+ viewfinder of course)? Not much of focusing needed with lenses that wide.
zuiko85
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Ultra wide fixed lens point and shoot camera? Don't think there is enough demand for anyone to make such a model. As an aside you can purchase a Slim Devil with a 22mm, 2 element f11 lens for $30 from Freestyle Photo. Otherwise I think you could put together a Voigtlander R4A and 21mm f4 Skopar.....for only $1220.....not cheap but it would be a quality wide angle point & shoot.
ColSebastianMoran
( IRL Richard Karash )
Nikon FG with Nikkor 20mm f/4 lens. Quality, auto exposure, fast focus (if you're good), and pretty small.
btgc
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Konica Offroad 28, prime lens of 8 elements and proper size/grip.
Eric T
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I put a 15mm CV lens and viewfinder on a Zeiss Ikon SW. That works well for me.
bigeye
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Assuming P&S digital, the S100 has 24mm equiv. and works quite well.
Found this funky camera filter: http://snapsort.com/explore/best-compacts/24-months-recent-24mm-wide-angle
I don't know what a CASIO EX-TR150 is, but it goes to 21mm.
Found this funky camera filter: http://snapsort.com/explore/best-compacts/24-months-recent-24mm-wide-angle
I don't know what a CASIO EX-TR150 is, but it goes to 21mm.
venchka
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Didn't Fuji make a really nice film camera with a 24mm lens? Raid will know. I think he had one.
Wayne
Wayne
I'do go for that in a flash! Only, that lens is not widely available, and it's not exactly cheap. (I'm just looking at the only one on offer on eBay, they're asking ~$500 for it. Used, of course).
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shane_goguen
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Lomo LC-Wide
ColSebastianMoran
( IRL Richard Karash )
Interesting. The 20mm f/4 is a great lens. Recent eBay sales were at $200-$250.
mrisney
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I have been pondering a Fuji GA645WI.
venchka
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Sometimes I even amaze myself. Fujifilm Natura with 24mm/f:1.9 lens. What's not to like?
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Fujifilm_Natura_Black_F1.9
As for the Nikon SLR+20mm Nikkor lens option...
Forget ebay. Shop at the Nikon Cafe. Buy from real photographers. You might even save a few greenbacks.
By the way, for most mortals like us, 24mm is plenty wide. YMMV.
Wayne
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Fujifilm_Natura_Black_F1.9
As for the Nikon SLR+20mm Nikkor lens option...
Forget ebay. Shop at the Nikon Cafe. Buy from real photographers. You might even save a few greenbacks.
By the way, for most mortals like us, 24mm is plenty wide. YMMV.
Wayne
JMQ
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Digital: Panasonic LX5, with a 24-90mm equiv zoom which opens to F2 at 24mm (or its more expensive Leica D-Lux 5 twin).
Film: Most PS film cameras will have a 35 or 38 mm lens. Nikon has a 28mm PS film.
Film: Most PS film cameras will have a 35 or 38 mm lens. Nikon has a 28mm PS film.
Aristophanes
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Ultrawides in the 20-25mm range have always been expensive and rare on fixed lens cameras. A Leica M or CL film body with Voigtländer 21mm f/4 is reasonably priced and performs very well.