Will a Jupiter 12 fit the Canon P?

[januaryman]

I've heard that some Russian lenses will not fit the Canon P - I was looking at the Jupiter 12 as a good alernative. Will it work?

Thanks

 

[payasam]

Not absolutely certain, but I understand that the protruding rear element will foul something in the body.

 

[Dave Wilkinson]

I recently asked the same question, but regarding my Canon 7.....only got one reply, - which seemed to indicate that 'it depends on the year of manufacture of the lens', I think I'll play safe and save my pennies for a Voigtlander! 😕

Cheers, Dave

 

[januaryman]

I thought I remembered a problem with the rear element, but I was hoping that was true only for the Bessa R... Thank you, all. I'll drop the idea.

 

[Nikon Bob]

I am not sure of the model of Canon RF my friend has but I know that he has used a J12 on it. I believe it was an all black model J12. We talked about it the other day and he said that he had held the shutter open when first fitting it to the Canon to check the clearance of the shutter from the back. The clearance was minimal but it was there. Photos taken with it were decent.

Bob

 

[kevin m]

My J12 fouls the light baffles Sitemistic mentioned in my Canon VI-T. I don't know if it's the same internally as the P or not.

 

[Flloyd]

Hello,

my black J-12 seems to be a newer one (No. 8902xxx) - it works fine on both Canon 7-bodies.

Greetings

Alex

 

[Flloyd]

sorry, double

 

[steverett]

I have a silver J-12 that fits on both of my Canon 7 bodies. I believe some of them have a ring around the rear element, making it wider, and causing the problem with the canons. However, they're not too expensive, and you could probably easily resell one here if it doesn't fit.

 

[Hibbs]

From the photoethnography site:

"There are some non-Canon wide angle screw mount lenses that you should not use with the Canon P because the internal light baffles are in the way. Most the web sites in the links below will tell you which ones. I general, most collapsible lenses are also bad. The only disappointment is that I can't use the Russian Jupiter 35mm Biogon-clone, which is one of the few Soviet lenses that gets rave reviews (although truth be told, I like my Jupiter-8 52mm lens).


I would not take the chance.

~hibbs

 

[Dante_Stella]

It will bend the baffles on the P. The baffles enclose the RF arm. The VI series and the 7 have identical baffles.

Not worth it.

 

[mr_phillip]

For what it's worth I used my late black J12 on my Canon P successfully for years. There's a lot of model variation with the Soviet lenses (making it difficult to talk in absolute terms), but as a rule the problems are more likely to concern the earlier silver-bodied J12s. It's very easy to test if the lens is going to foil the light baffles – simply mount the lens with the camera back and shutter open. You'll see any likely problems before you can do any damage.

 

[steverett]

My J-12 appears to touch the light baffles when it is screwed all the way in, but it did not seem to dent or scratch them, or affect the rangefinder.

So I guess the definitive answer to your question is "Maybe."

 

[kb244]

From my experience a Black Jupiter-12 fit on my past Canon P without a problem at all (but would go back too far on a Bessa T since the front shutter is closer to the lens than the shutter on the P is), seems the older Chrome Jupiter-12 were just barely the extra diameter needed to actually hit the light baffles.

In relations to the J-12, I do remember that I could fit my Black J-12 on a Fed-2A Type 2C without a problem, but on a Fed-2C the cam would collide into the black coated barrel of the lens scraping up against the actual glass barrel where the rangefinder coupler was on the lens. (tear drop cam versus a bar like cam apparently).

 

[squirrel$$$bandit]

Hey all--I'm resurrecting this thread to see if anyone new has experimented with this combination. The consensus here and elsewhere online SEEMS to be that the later black ones fit; the older silver ones don't--but I've put a note in to Fedka asking this question, as well.

Anyone else tried it? I just bought a P and would love to try out a 12 on it.

 

[airds]

Try the 'Jupiter-12 to Canon P?' thread from back in Sept 2005 .......

 

[fbaboulaz]

j12 fits ok

j12 fits ok

I have got a 7 and a P and a j12 that's fits well on both.

my j12 is black and 'is born' in 1988

work's fine and produce very good pictures.

 

[squirrel$$$bandit]

I will probably try buying a black one...

 

[Ken Smith]

I have an 87 black J-12 mounted on my 7 - plenty of clearance around the rear element on all sides. Personally I think the matter of a J-12 fitting your Canon boils down to three factors.

1 - Canon model.
2 - The use of the newer black J-12 version.
3 - Individual variation in size of the light chamber.

There's probably a lot of variation in the latter between models to include between individual cameras of the same model. I'd definitely go for trying one - you can always unload the J-12 due to it's popularity.

Ken

 

[Marla60]

I will probably try buying a black one...

I am very interested to buy a Jupiter 12 for my Canon P too

Have you decided to buy one?

I understood that we should buy a recent version, all black.

I would like to try...