Would You sell M and stay with a T3?

Frank Petronio said:
Well if you shoot portraits with a Hasselblad and a 150 and street with a Leica M and 28mm then you're just like thousands of other photographers... it's all very traditional.

Why do that? Are you somehow finding your own voice and coming up with new pictures that are original, creative, different working within these traditional restraints? Or isn't that important?

Is it plenty satisfying to ape a Winograd shot on the street or to recreate an Irving Penn portrait in the studio?

You're not doing this for assignments or being art directed so why be so constricted? As nice as this high quality equipment is, I suspect a large part of why we gravitate towards certain cameras is out of peer pressure on forums like this one... where gear (and cameras bags) are the focus. Obviously you need a camera of some sort to do photography but if you're so uncertain of your direction that you would readily give up one kind for something entirely different (going from a Leica M to a auto point and shoot) then maybe you need to back up and decide what to shoot before making expensive choices on gear?
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Wise words, as they say - don't follow in the footsteps of others, but seek what they sought.
 
More selling and buying, Bruno? Didn't you just go through this recently, landing on the Leica as your most favored?

No, I wouldn't sell a Leica MP for a Contax T3. I'm not all that enamored of the T3. If I had an MP and a Rolleli 35S, and I found myself not using the MP, and I needed the money, I'd sell the MP. Not one for the other, you see, just "not using one - retrieve the money".

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Frank Petronio said:
Get rid of all that 35mm gear, it's a dead end. It's nice to fondle old Leicas and Contaxes but face it, the picture quality doesn't begin to compare with the results from an inexpensive medium format or a modern digital camera. Why tie thousands of dollars up in a mediocre format?
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For that matter, why buy anything but a ToyoView 810GII?
 
The only camera which I recover (the same, not the same model, I meant camera) after selling, has been my MP, not one, two but three times.

I need to avoid more thoughts about wow this is so expensive gear and I don't deserve it, I can get the same pictures with a M2 and 40 Cron, or an iPhone, but the true is, when You know what You have in your hands, You just appreciate the value and the beauty and joy of use, of the MP, for example.

Regarding filmfan I'm agree with him, T3 doesn't feel sturdy.

The best thing I can do is stay away of forum for a while and video about gear or photographers, new ones.

Let me explain, I love to see Joey Lawrence, this young man has stunning pictures, what my problem is? Want to do the same with the same gear. I see a lovely picture of a face taken with a Leica S2? I want it to do exactly the same.

I'm a little bit stuck with what I want and what I'm capable to do.

I Don't really know if I want to travel and take pictures, if I want to put my camera on a tripod and wait people coming home... One thing is sure, I feel lost just taking my camera and go for a ride, walk, just trying to find an interesting picture, people, composition... need a long term project, and Don't know how start with it.

Probably when I know what and how I will know the gear.

So difficult...
 
Bruno Gracia said:
I Don't really know if I want to travel and take pictures, if I want to put my camera on a tripod and wait people coming home... One thing is sure, I feel lost just taking my camera and go for a ride, walk, just trying to find an interesting picture, people, composition... need a long term project, and Don't know how start with it.

Probably when I know what and how I will know the gear.

So difficult...
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Bruno, I was given an advice recently that the wrong things a lot of us doing is walking around too much! aka i walk a lot but dont see many things interesting. Setup a base, go to a laundry mart and just photograph everything there and the ppl who regulars there, talk to them be friends. after half a year see what you got 😉 thats the easiest way to start a porfolio.
 
Wise words, as they say - don't follow in the footsteps of others, but seek what they sought.
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Indeed.

I let my M outfit go, recently, but kept my Bessa L with the 15, 25 and 35. I got many shots I liked out of the M3 in the years I owned it, but interests change and it's time for me to change with them.
 
If you look at someone like Lee Friedlander, he started out using Leica 35mm then later Hasselblad SWCM and more recently Bessa R4A + voignlander 21mm lens....

Same photographer, different periods of time, same photographic vision... different themes. Each kit has its strenghs and weaknesses.

Dont fill a creative void with gear. Fill it with photos.
 
Bruno Gracia said:
Thanks.

So actually, is not compatible to have a 35mm and MF system, isn't it?

Tuanvinh that's a nice advice.
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It was given to me by a photo journalist who shot for Times/Reuters and been through many wars in his 35 years of career. He loves Leica (BP M4 is his main camera) but for work anything goes (mostly Canon). Leica even sends him free M Mono to work with. It was a meeting that inspires me a lot. I'm moving to London soon so may be we can meet up in the next few months!
 
tuanvinh2000 said:
It was given to me by a photo journalist who shot for Times/Reuters and been through many wars in his 35 years of career. He loves Leica (BP M4 is his main camera) but for work anything goes (mostly Canon). Leica even sends him free M Mono to work with. It was a meeting that inspires me a lot. I'm moving to London soon so may be we can meet up in the next few months!
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Oh really? That would be nice!!!

give me a call 🙂


Ansel thanks for your comment.


I have the scanner, a good one, Minolta Multi Pro, but haven't got an enlarger here, but Spain and I never use one, this could be one of reason I'm thinking too much about gear and analog vs digital, maybe if I start to see my work printed... my conception or mind change.


What do You do, when You want to shot in colour and it's cloudy day, with analog?
 
The T3 has a great reputation but it's not as versatile or as well built as an M.
Sell the MP and you'll regret it.

I don't get why you don't keep what you have. Yes you have some money tied up in your M gear but that at least is not depreciating.

Make some financial adjustments in other parts of your life.
 
tuanvinh2000 said:
Bruno, I was given an advice recently that the wrong things a lot of us doing is walking around too much! aka i walk a lot but dont see many things interesting. Setup a base, go to a laundry mart and just photograph everything there and the ppl who regulars there, talk to them be friends. after half a year see what you got 😉 thats the easiest way to start a porfolio.
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Exactly. Focus.

For reading material, The War of Art is a good place to start, and for the semantics of how most of the photographers we admire work, On Photography is another valuable book.

Mostly though, in our gut, I think we know most of what we need to know already. The principles and elements required to succeed in any endeavour tend to be the same, yet when it comes to photography we seem to disregard what we know.

Or to quite Steven Pressfield - do the work.
 
mmm... You're right.

Maybe, just the MP and a 35 will be the perfect solution and keep the Hassel for portrait work.

I'm scanning Slides... how can be possible this magic , sharpness and colorful frames on a piece of film? pffff it's a shame it become expensive. Agfa Precisa.

Do You know if there is any analog wet print courses in London? Or someone who want to teach me a little bit? is it difficult to enlarge a slide?

Thanks.
 
Murchu said:
Exactly. Focus.

For reading material, The War of Art is a good place to start, and for the semantics of how most of the photographers we admire work, On Photography is another valuable book.

Mostly though, in our gut, I think we know most of what we need to know already. The principles and elements required to succeed in any endeavour tend to be the same, yet when it comes to photography we seem to disregard what we know.

Or to quite Steven Pressfield - do the work.
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I agree. I listen to Pressfields book a few times a year on long drives.
It's a series of mantras and really drives his points home.
Basically…. DO Your Work and Ignore Distractions!

As to the trade out. Yeah... sell it all and go with one P&S for 35mm. The T3 is better than most.
I've considered the same with a Hexar AF although I like a fast 50mm at night sometimes so will keep an M of some sort with that one 50mm lens.
Most of the rest of my RF kit is already gone.

Franks point about IQ is valid unless you are looking for the special look (or maybe special effect) of 35mm film.
For me it's the grain! I just love it and can not duplicate that felling with digital grain.

Tri-x in rodinal
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Hi,

P&S's have a lot of advantages for street photography, being small, light and cheap. I'm thinking of (say) the Minolta Riva mini or Pentax ESPIO mini f'instance and there's lots more.

Not only that but they don't frighten people like big cameras do. OTOH, you get to meet other photographers and chat with some/all film cameras.

I'd say that the film (meaning slides) or the print size determine the lens's perceived quality. So I can use a wide range of cheapo cameras and go to 8" 10" or a little bigger. For slides and an 18ft wide screen I'd use a tripod and my best lenses (Summicron etc). With the tripod and a P&S I can often do better than a top quality lens and no tripod; it all depends.

Regards, David
 
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