X-Pro2 and existing 35 f1.4 lenses. What will happen?

[Clint Troy]

Hate?
So much hate?

No at all. We surely don't have the same definition of hate.

Can a guy just give his opinion?

 

[GaryLH]

The previous 35 Cron was in service for 16 years, not 16 months.

Even by Fuji's standards, they didn't update their Hasselblad HC lenses for at least 7-8 years, and that's after there had been 4 bodies and technological leaps and bounds in AF.

I may eat my words, but I also kind of doubt the announcement of a new X body until much later this year (maybe even spring). They need to market it with new lenses which were promised this spring... and it's upon us now. I don't think Fuji will just release a new body if PDAF is the only improvement. I know there's some magazine from Japan floating around with some general info, but really...

Your right on the v4. I have the black v4, when I looked it up when I first bought it, one if the sites showed the black was only from 93-97. Now that I double checked again, the v4 ran longer than that, but it appears my black version only had a short run. So the short period was related to what stuck in my mind from back then.

There are several improvements that came w/ the x100s pdaf, focus peaking, split image, higher resolution evf and faster digital path that included CPU performance.

Personally I am hoping that the next gen xp2 increase the sensor to 24mp or they improve the dynamic range on top of the improvements that they made from x100s. Fix the exposure compensation dial so that the default position is locked or at least more resistance to accidental change.

Gary

 

[NicoM]

Hate?
So much hate?

No at all. We surely don't have the same definition of hate.

Can a guy just give his opinion?

Don't you think you're being harsh? You implied that Fuji cameras aren't well engineered, not efficient and that they don't work. It might have not worked for you and what you want to do with your photography, but to negatively generalize to that extent is pretty much hating, in my book at least.

It's whatever though. If you like you're Leica more that's totally cool. I like my Leica as well.

 

[jsrockit]

I know you get a bad itch when I write this kind of stuff but you being a moderator doesn't make fuji or all the sony NEX products any better because of it.

Perhaps it's because you come in and crap all over the cameras that don't work for you? Most of us just ignore the threads with cameras we don't care for...

The curse of being a mod is that your usual opinion gets taken as a direct order when, regardless of if you are a mod or not, it is still just an opinion in an internet forum.

You are entitled to your negative opinion of course (and are free to post it). However, why not concentrate on threads based on equipment / ideas that you like?

 

[noimmunity]

why not concentrate on threads based on equipment / ideas that you like?

http://www.managingthought.com/forwardthinkinggentlereminder/volume8/focusonwhatyouwant

 

[noimmunity]

I refuse to be a guinea pig of the new age. My Leicas lenses are honest devices in every sense.
When and if the X-pro5 comes along, and will finally be a ripe product making sense, that's when I'll *maybe* consider it.

When the X series first came out, I wrote here that I thought it was not yet a fully-matured product. I still think that way, but one year into owning an X-Pro1, it hasn't stopped me from taking an enormous amount of photos that are important to me and a few other people in situations in which my previous cameras were sidelined.

I, too, am aghast at the way consumers have become ways to outsource R&D/marketing costs.

Yet I do not see how the digital Leicas are any less prone to this characterization, if not only more so. The M8 was an immature product if there ever were one. The M9 not much better. (I've loved both to bits). The new M, which is Leica's first digital camera conceived as a digital camera from the ground up, makes this immaturity all-too-clear.

The "honesty" to be found in Leica's products has to be weighed against the company's price structure, often criticized as "boutique" and "luxury" against the needs of photogs with a real honest love for the incident rangefinder but locked out of the market segment by cost.

 

[GaryLH]

I think that it comes down to what makes most sense for Fuji. "Better" tech is better but there's always going to be a "better". Fuji, or any other brand for that matter, is not always going to release the "better" when it doesn't make any sense to. In the case of the 35mm, I honestly think that the lens is not flawed at all (unless you consider the louder AF to be a flaw). It's the way in which the camera focuses that needs to be tweaked.

My post number 4 in this thread were examples of improvements from what Fuji did in other more recent lenses that would be nice to eventually c in a revised 35f1.4 one day.

Gary

 

[NicoM]

My post number 4 in this thread were examples of improvements from what Fuji did in other more recent lenses that would be nice to eventually c in a revised 35f1.4 one day.

Gary

One day, yes. Soon, probably not.

I personally don't think that the 35 needs a focus scale or the AF/MF engagement system. I don't, and I'm sure a majority of the user os the Fuji system (Camera + Fuji Lesnes) , don't use MF. I don't think Fuji intended the system to be used with MF. The 14mm is an exception because at f/8 past a couple of feet you have basically everything in focus. MF is easy with that lens. I don't think we're going to see the AF/MF switch of the 14mm on all future lenses. I'm not 100% certain, but the 56, 23 and 27mm, from the pictures/videos available don't look like they have that feature.

We can always have a faster AF motor but like I said previously, the 35mm isn't lacking is speed. It's just the way the camera handles the focusing that needs to be improved. I do wish it was quieter though.